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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, Callum Parsey <callum@neoninteger.au>,
	me@yawnt.com, lemmi@nerd2nerd.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy routes from outer namespace
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 11:58:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230522115851.2c7f7736@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGsq2WblJeKnF4R/@yekko>

On Mon, 22 May 2023 18:42:01 +1000
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 01:42:17AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > Instead of just fetching the default gateway and configuring a single
> > equivalent route in the target namespace, on 'pasta --config-net', it
> > might be desirable in some cases to copy the whole set of routes
> > corresponding to a given output interface.
> > 
> > For instance, in:
> >   https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/18539
> >   IPv4 Default Route Does Not Propagate to Pasta Containers on Hetzner VPSes
> > 
> > configuring the default gateway won't work without a gateway-less
> > route (specifying the output interface only), because the default
> > gateway is, somewhat dubiously, not on the same subnet as the
> > container.
> > 
> > This is a similar case to the one covered by commit 7656a6f88882
> > ("conf: Adjust netmask on mismatch between IPv4 address/netmask and
> > gateway"), and I'm not exactly proud of that workaround.
> > 
> > We also have:
> >   https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=49
> >   pasta does not work with tap-style interface
> > 
> > for which, eventually, we should be able to configure a gateway-less
> > route in the target namespace.
> > 
> > Introduce different operation modes for nl_route(), including a new
> > NL_DUP one, not exposed yet, which simply parrots back to the kernel
> > the route dump for a given interface from the outer namespace, fixing
> > up flags and interface indices on the way, and requesting to add the
> > same routes in the target namespace, on the interface we manage.
> > 
> > For n routes we want to duplicate, send n identical netlink requests
> > including the full dump: routes might depend on each other and the
> > kernel processes RTM_NEWROUTE messages sequentially, not atomically,
> > and repeating the full dump naturally resolves dependencies without
> > the need to actually calculate them.
> > 
> > I'm not kidding, it actually works pretty well.  
> 
> If there's a way to detect whether the kernel rejected some of the
> routes, it would be nice to cut that loop short as soon as all the
> routes are inserted.  Obviously that could be a followup improvement,
> though.

Yes, there's a way, but to keep things asynchronous in a simple way we
process errors from nl_req() only at the next request.

This part doesn't really need to be asynchronous, though: we could add
a flag for nl_req() saying that we want to know about NLMSG_ERROR right
away. This looks relatively straightforward, and already an improvement
in the sense you mentioned.

Actually parsing the error and finding out the offending route is a bit
more complicated, though.

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-22  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-21 23:42 [PATCH v2 00/10] Optionally copy all routes and addresses for pasta, allow gateway-less routes Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] netlink: Fix comment about response buffer size for nl_req() Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] pasta: Improve error handling on failure to join network namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy routes from outer namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22  8:42   ` David Gibson
2023-05-22  9:58     ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2023-05-23  3:08       ` David Gibson
2023-05-23  6:14         ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-27  2:06           ` David Gibson
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] conf: --config-net option is for pasta mode only Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] conf, pasta: With --config-net, copy all routes by default Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22  8:44   ` David Gibson
2023-05-22  9:59     ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] Revert "conf: Adjust netmask on mismatch between IPv4 address/netmask and gateway" Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] conf: Don't exit if sourced default route has no gateway Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22  8:48   ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 15:29     ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy addresses from outer namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22  8:51   ` David Gibson
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] conf, pasta: With --config-net, copy all addresses by default Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22  8:53   ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 15:30     ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] passt.h: Fix description of pasta_ifi in struct ctx Stefano Brivio

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