From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by passt.top (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E535A026D for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:18:36 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1687155515; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1qvbJuY6PlkjiRe97p4TV0iKhjj7hRQ8YCO6F3v8PF4=; b=ANQtPtJNQA14GWU8Y0hliGJ2OWgDETf3y/FDlhXnascF+rGCezpKbY7bU6cCjy/nywoVAJ aBKMB98LMeD+BucaYesmIZt1pt+ruKBn79DMYZMLG/ipeR1xlT2+nSKsUI9jk96/l5W5/R jW9Z1z8upovpBmuvJivLJKu3Yi1lHbk= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx3-rdu2.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-428-sOAMH6VVNmS3qtpx2nxh3w-1; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 02:18:32 -0400 X-MC-Unique: sOAMH6VVNmS3qtpx2nxh3w-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 538BC3C025B8; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 06:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elisabeth (unknown [10.39.208.6]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A0B8440CB; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 06:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:18:28 +0200 From: Stefano Brivio To: David Gibson Subject: Re: Option parsing: Allow the same option multiple times Message-ID: <20230619081631.48df2a43@elisabeth> In-Reply-To: References: <895dae7d-3e61-4ef7-829a-87966ab0bb3a@redhat.com> <20230616154306.1071c4a3@elisabeth> Organization: Red Hat MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.5 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: CRXAJF5S3DBYJ5OL5HC6HKCZI6N5GABG X-Message-ID-Hash: CRXAJF5S3DBYJ5OL5HC6HKCZI6N5GABG X-MailFrom: sbrivio@redhat.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Holzinger , passt-dev@passt.top X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Development discussion and patches for passt Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:49:42 +1000 David Gibson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:04:00PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 14:57:37 +0200 > > Paul Holzinger wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > following up on a quick discussion with Stefano on IRC. > > > > > > passt/pasta currently rejects most (not all) options when specified > > > multiple times, i.e. pasta -I eth0 -I eth1 ... fails. I think it makes > > > more sense to just use the last one instead. > > > > > > My use case: In podman I added a new containers.conf option[1] which > > > allows users to set default pasta cli options. However users can also > > > add options on the podman cli with podman run --net=pasta:... For me it > > > would make the most sense to just append those to the config options and > > > then let pasta deal with it. This allows some form of overwrite > > > mechanism, i.e. by default I may have "-I" , "eth0" in containers.conf > > > but for one specific container I want to use a different interface name > > > and set --net=pasta:-I,eth1 on the cli. Then podman should just hand "-I > > > eth0 -I eth1" to pasta and then pasta picks the last one. > > > > > > If we keep the current behavior it means I am forced to parse the > > > options in podman and dedup them which is hard to maintain as podman > > > would need to keep up with pasta upstream. > > > > I had to do something similar in libpod/networking_pasta_linux.go, > > which, if you change this, could also be simplified a bit. > > > > > I am willing to send a patch to change this so please let me know if > > > anyone would object to that. > > > > For the record, as I mentioned on IRC, I think it makes sense. > > > > Maybe it's less "correct" as a behaviour, and it would make it a bit > > harder for users to spot (unlikely) mistakes on the command line, but > > making integrations simpler probably outweighs this. > > > > I don't have a good idea for sentences like "This option can be > > specified zero (for defaults) to two times (once for IPv4, once for IPv6)." > > that are currently in the man page... maybe we could switch from > > "This option can be specified" to "This option specifies one to two..." > > and similar. > > So, I'm actually a bit hesitant about applying this treatment (allow > multiple, last one wins) to -a specifically. The reason being that we > have draft plans to allow multiple addresses within the guest/ns. > That might logically lead to allowing arbitrary numbers of -a options > in future, where *all* the addresses apply. If we'd previously > allowed multiple options, but only the last one applies, that might be > a breaking semantic change. Uh oh, right... and it might also apply to -g / --gateway eventually. On the other hand: are two semantic changes (both of which not breaking any reasonable or expected previous usage) in a relatively short period of time so much worse than one (we plan to change -a handling anyway)? I guess handling -a differently in Podman's options would still be additional effort for Paul. In my opinion, as long as we keep man pages updated, we should still prioritise making our lives (and the code!) easier. -- Stefano