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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: Nikolay Edigaryev <edigaryev@gmail.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] passt: introduce --fd-is-tap to allow passing TAP file descriptor
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2023 14:34:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230916143241.2a7b6c77@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230915142152.73499-1-edigaryev@gmail.com>

Hi Nikolay,

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:21:52 +0400
Nikolay Edigaryev <edigaryev@gmail.com> wrote:

> Problem: I have a Cloud Hypervisor virtual machine that needs both
> (1) an internet access without fiddling with iptables/Netfilter and
> (2) VM <-> host access (to be able to provision this VM over SSH)
> without dealing with passt port forwarding it doesn't seem to be
> possible to map the whole IP address, yet the users expect an IP
> instead of IP:port combination.
> 
> Requirement #1 is why I've choosen passt and it's pretty much
> satisfied (thank you for this great piece of software!).

And thanks for the patches! I'm glad to hear it's useful for you (and
with Cloud Hypervisor :)).

Two comments:

> Requirement #2 implies some kind of bridge interface on the host
> with one TAP interface for the VM and the other for the passt.
> 
> However, only pasta can accept TAP interface FD's in it's -F/--fd,
> which is OK, but it also configures unneeded namespacing, which in
> turn results in unneeded complexity and performance overhead due
> to the need of involving veth pairs to break away from the pasta
> namespace to the host for the requirement #2 to be satisfied.
> 
> I've also considered proxying the UNIX domain socket communication
> to/from a TAP interface in my own Golang code, but it incurs
> significant performance overhead.
> 
> On the other hand passt seems to already can do everything I need,
> it just needs some guidance on which type of FD it's dealing with.
> 
> Solution: introduce --fd-is-tap command-line flag to tell passt
> which type of FD it's being passed to and force it to use appropriate
> system calls and offset calculation.

Did you consider adding another parameter altogether, such as --tap-fd?

I'm asking because we recently got a request to add another (similar)
interface on that "side", that is, a VSOCK file descriptor, for usage
with podman-machine. At that point, a further --fd-is-vsock would look
a bit awkward.

Further, David Gibson is working on a generalised flow table approach
which *should* also allow us to have multiple "taps"... and at that
point, somebody might want to pass multiple "--tap-fd" or -F options.

I didn't really evaluate if there are drawbacks to that, though --
maybe it's a lot more code.

> This patch also clarifies the -F/--fd description for pasta to note
> that we're expecting a TAP device and not a UNIX domain socket.

You should add a Signed-off-by tag here (but in general I can fix up
tags myself on merge). Other than that, the patch looks good to me in a
general sense.

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-16 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-15 14:21 [PATCH] passt: introduce --fd-is-tap to allow passing TAP file descriptor Nikolay Edigaryev
2023-09-16 12:34 ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2023-09-18  2:23   ` David Gibson
2023-09-18 13:37   ` [PATCH] passt: introduce --tap-fd " Nikolay Edigaryev
2023-09-19  0:45     ` David Gibson
2023-09-18 13:44   ` [PATCH] passt: introduce --fd-is-tap " Nikolay Edigaryev

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