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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tcp: Disable Nagle's algorithm (set TCP_NODELAY) on all sockets
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:40:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250121094002.7d73f1be@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z48N748tQbxuraMl@zatzit>

On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 13:31:03 +1030
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 06:28:16PM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > Following up on 725acd111ba3 ("tcp_splice: Set (again) TCP_NODELAY on
> > both sides"), David argues that, in general, we don't know what kind
> > of TCP traffic we're dealing with, on any side or path.
> > 
> > TCP segments might have been delivered to our socket with a PSH flag,
> > but we don't have a way to know about it.
> > 
> > Similarly, the guest might send us segments with PSH or URG set, but
> > we don't know if we should generally TCP_CORK sockets and uncork on
> > those flags, because that would assume they're running a Linux kernel
> > (and a particular version of it) matching the kernel that delivers
> > outbound packets for us.
> > 
> > Given that we can't make any assumption and everything might very well
> > be interactive traffic, disable Nagle's algorithm on all non-spliced
> > sockets as well.
> > 
> > After all, John Nagle himself is nowadays recommending that delayed
> > ACKs should never be enabled together with his algorithm, but we
> > don't have a practical way to ensure that our environment is free from
> > delayed ACKs (TCP_QUICKACK is not really usable for this purpose):
> > 
> >   https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34180239
> > 
> > Suggested-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> > Signed-off-by: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > v2: Set TCP_NODELAY on inbound socket after accept4(), not on the
> >     listening sockets, and change failure message to debug()
> >     instead of trace()  
> 
> Uh.. you've moved it to after accept() for incoming connections, but
> it looks like you've accidentally removed the call for outgoing
> connections (tcp_conn_new_sock()).

Uh... no? It's here:

> >  tcp.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/tcp.c b/tcp.c
> > index a012b81..4d6a6b3 100644
> > --- a/tcp.c
> > +++ b/tcp.c
> > @@ -756,6 +756,19 @@ static void tcp_sock_set_bufsize(const struct ctx *c, int s)
> >  		trace("TCP: failed to set SO_SNDBUF to %i", v);
> >  }
> >  
> > +/**
> > + * tcp_sock_set_nodelay() - Set TCP_NODELAY option (disable Nagle's algorithm)
> > + * @s:		Socket, can be -1 to avoid check in the caller
> > + */
> > +static void tcp_sock_set_nodelay(int s)
> > +{
> > +	if (s == -1)
> > +		return;
> > +
> > +	if (setsockopt(s, SOL_TCP, TCP_NODELAY, &((int){ 1 }), sizeof(int)))
> > +		debug("TCP: failed to set TCP_NODELAY on socket %i", s);
> > +}
> > +
> >  /**
> >   * tcp_update_csum() - Calculate TCP checksum
> >   * @psum:	Unfolded partial checksum of the IPv4 or IPv6 pseudo-header
> > @@ -1285,6 +1298,7 @@ static int tcp_conn_new_sock(const struct ctx *c, sa_family_t af)
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> >  		return -errno;
> >  
> >  	tcp_sock_set_bufsize(c, s);
> > +	tcp_sock_set_nodelay(s);
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

...am I missing something?

> >  
> >  	return s;
> >  }
> > @@ -2058,6 +2072,7 @@ void tcp_listen_handler(const struct ctx *c, union epoll_ref ref,
> >  		goto cancel;
> >  
> >  	tcp_sock_set_bufsize(c, s);
> > +	tcp_sock_set_nodelay(s);
> >  
> >  	/* FIXME: When listening port has a specific bound address, record that
> >  	 * as our address  

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-20 17:28 [PATCH v2] tcp: Disable Nagle's algorithm (set TCP_NODELAY) on all sockets Stefano Brivio
2025-01-21  3:01 ` David Gibson
2025-01-21  8:40   ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-01-21 12:42     ` David Gibson
2025-01-21 12:42 ` David Gibson

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