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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>,
	Paul Holzinger <pholzing@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/8] tcp: Rewind sequence when guest shrinks window to zero
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 08:37:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250910083748.6b566880@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMDgY0vNDN4fhZBV@zatzit>

On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 12:20:19 +1000
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:16:50PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > A window shrunk to zero means by definition that anything else that
> > might be in flight is now out of window. Restart from the currently
> > acknowledged sequence.
> > 
> > We need to do that both in tcp_tap_window_update(), where we already
> > check for zero-window updates, as well as in tcp_data_from_tap(),
> > because we might get one of those updates in a batch of packets that
> > also contains a non-zero window update.
> > 
> > Suggested-by: Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>  
> 
> Reviewed-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> 
> Though a couple of documentation nits below.
> 
> > ---
> >  tcp.c | 34 +++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> >  1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/tcp.c b/tcp.c
> > index 86e08f1..12d42e0 100644
> > --- a/tcp.c
> > +++ b/tcp.c
> > @@ -1268,19 +1268,25 @@ static void tcp_get_tap_ws(struct tcp_tap_conn *conn,
> >  
> >  /**
> >   * tcp_tap_window_update() - Process an updated window from tap side
> > + * @c:		Execution context
> >   * @conn:	Connection pointer
> >   * @wnd:	Window value, host order, unscaled
> >   */
> > -static void tcp_tap_window_update(struct tcp_tap_conn *conn, unsigned wnd)
> > +static void tcp_tap_window_update(const struct ctx *c,
> > +				  struct tcp_tap_conn *conn, unsigned wnd)
> >  {
> >  	wnd = MIN(MAX_WINDOW, wnd << conn->ws_from_tap);
> >  
> >  	/* Work-around for bug introduced in peer kernel code, commit
> > -	 * e2142825c120 ("net: tcp: send zero-window ACK when no memory").
> > -	 * We don't update if window shrank to zero.
> > +	 * e2142825c120 ("net: tcp: send zero-window ACK when no memory"): don't
> > +	 * update the window if it shrank to zero, so that we'll eventually
> > +	 * retry to send data, but rewind the sequence as that obviously implies
> > +	 * that no data beyond the updated window will ever be acknowledged.  
> 
> As noted earlier "will ever be acknowledged" might be a bit
> misleading.  Maybe "no data beyond the window will be acknowledged
> until it is retransmitted".

Sorry, I actually fixed the patch after your same comment on v3 and
then for some reason I threw away the changes together with some of
your Reviewed-by: tags. Fixed as we discussed on v3 now.

> >  	 */
> > -	if (!wnd && SEQ_LT(conn->seq_ack_from_tap, conn->seq_to_tap))
> > +	if (!wnd && SEQ_LT(conn->seq_ack_from_tap, conn->seq_to_tap)) {
> > +		tcp_rewind_seq(c, conn);
> >  		return;
> > +	}
> >  
> >  	conn->wnd_from_tap = MIN(wnd >> conn->ws_from_tap, USHRT_MAX);
> >  
> > @@ -1709,7 +1715,8 @@ static int tcp_data_from_tap(const struct ctx *c, struct tcp_tap_conn *conn,
> >  			tcp_timer_ctl(c, conn);
> >  
> >  			if (p->count == 1) {
> > -				tcp_tap_window_update(conn, ntohs(th->window));
> > +				tcp_tap_window_update(c, conn,
> > +						      ntohs(th->window));
> >  				return 1;
> >  			}
> >  
> > @@ -1728,6 +1735,15 @@ static int tcp_data_from_tap(const struct ctx *c, struct tcp_tap_conn *conn,
> >  				       ack_seq == max_ack_seq &&
> >  				       ntohs(th->window) == max_ack_seq_wnd;
> >  
> > +				/* See tcp_tap_window_update() for details. On
> > +				 * top of that, we also need to check here if a
> > +				 * zero-window update is contained in a batch of
> > +				 * packets that includes a non-zero window as
> > +				 * well.  
> 
> I'm not 100% convinced of this reasoning.  But at worst this should
> result in some unnecessary but mostly harmless retransmits, and it
> seems to fix the problem empirically, so I'm not suggesting changing
> it at this time.

Right, strictly speaking, it *might* be that the peer didn't actually
throw data away, which should be indicated by the fact that the same
data is acknowledged in another segment of this same batch.

But handling that without making this part unreasonably complicated
implies a refactor of this whole thing: we should extract a function
dealing with sequences and perhaps another one with window updates from
here.

I plan to file a ticket or two with stuff that emerged from this series.

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-10  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 18:16 [PATCH v4 0/8] tcp: Fixes for issues uncovered by tests with 6.17-rc1 kernels Stefano Brivio
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] tcp: FIN flags have to be retransmitted as well Stefano Brivio
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] tcp: Factor sequence rewind for retransmissions into a new function Stefano Brivio
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] tcp: Rewind sequence when guest shrinks window to zero Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10  2:20   ` David Gibson
2025-09-10  6:37     ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-09-10  7:18       ` David Gibson
2025-09-10 23:48   ` Jon Maloy
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] tcp: Fix closing logic for half-closed connections Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10 23:56   ` Jon Maloy
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] tcp: Don't try to transmit right after the peer shrank the window to zero Stefano Brivio
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] tcp: Cast operands of sequence comparison macros to uint32_t before using them Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10  2:21   ` David Gibson
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] tcp: Fast re-transmit if half-closed, make TAP_FIN_RCVD path consistent Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10  2:27   ` David Gibson
2025-09-10  9:57     ` Stefano Brivio
2025-09-09 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] tcp: Don't send FIN segment to guest yet if we have pending unacknowledged data Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10  2:29   ` David Gibson
2025-09-10  6:37     ` Stefano Brivio
2025-09-10  9:10 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] tcp: Fixes for issues uncovered by tests with 6.17-rc1 kernels Paul Holzinger

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