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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] tcp: Fix ACK sequence on FIN to tap
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 00:42:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251008004237.6b50cb0d@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aORRP0hvz5MmzzcF@zatzit>

On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 10:31:11 +1100
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 12:32:19AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:19:17 +1000
> > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:58:41PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:  
> > > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:41:08 +1000
> > > > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 02:06:43AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:    
> > > > > > If we reach end-of-file on a socket (or get EPOLLRDHUP / EPOLLHUP) and
> > > > > > send a FIN segment to the guest / container acknowledging a sequence
> > > > > > number that's behind what we received so far, we won't have any
> > > > > > further trigger to send an updated ACK segment, as we are now
> > > > > > switching the epoll socket monitoring to edge-triggered mode.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To avoid this situation, in tcp_update_seqack_wnd(), we set the next
> > > > > > acknowledgement sequence to the current observed sequence, regardless
> > > > > > of what was acknowledged socket-side.      
> > > > > 
> > > > > To double check my understanding: things should work if we always
> > > > > acknowledged everything we've received.  Acknowledging only what the
> > > > > peer has acked is a refinement to give the guest a view that's closer
> > > > > to what it would be end-to-end with the peer (which might improve the
> > > > > operation of flow control).    
> > > > 
> > > > Right.
> > > >     
> > > > > We can't use that refined mechanism when the socket is closing
> > > > > (amongst other cases), because while we can get the peer acked bytes
> > > > > from TCP_INFO, we can't get events when that changes, so we have no
> > > > > mechanism to provide updates to the guest at the right time.  So we
> > > > > fall back to the simpler method.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is that correct?    
> > > > 
> > > > Also correct, yes. If you have a better idea to summarise this in the
> > > > comment in tcp_buf_data_from_sock() let me know.    
> > > 
> > > Hm, I might.  Or actually a way to reorganise the code that I think
> > > will be a bit clearer and probably allow a clearer comment too.  
> > 
> > I would keep reworks for a later moment. Right now, it's already taking
> > me long enough to find a moment to investigate these issues, write these
> > fixes, and test them.  
> 
> I mean... the change I'm proposing reduces lines of code (excepting
> the big new comment), makes it easier to reason about and is localised
> to the immediately surrounding code.  But whatever, I don't
> particularly care about the order we do things.

Sure, I don't think that other patch is particularly complicated or
might ever become problematic at all, but, from your earlier comment
("reorganise the code", as I mentioned the comment in
tcp_buf_data_from_sock()), I thought you wanted to rework this
particular code in tcp_buf_data_from_sock() at the same time.

I guess it's not the case judging from your most recent reply, though.

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-07 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-02  0:06 [PATCH 0/4] tcp: Fix bad switch to CLOSE-WAIT state and surrounding issues Stefano Brivio
2025-10-02  0:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] tcp: Fix ACK sequence on FIN to tap Stefano Brivio
2025-10-02  2:41   ` David Gibson
2025-10-02 11:58     ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-03  3:19       ` David Gibson
2025-10-06 22:32         ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-06 23:31           ` David Gibson
2025-10-07 22:42             ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-10-08  0:42               ` David Gibson
2025-10-02  0:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] tcp: Completely ignore data segment in CLOSE-WAIT state, log a message Stefano Brivio
2025-10-02  2:44   ` David Gibson
2025-10-02  0:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] tcp: Don't consider FIN flags with mismatching sequence Stefano Brivio
2025-10-02  2:52   ` David Gibson
2025-10-02  3:02     ` David Gibson
2025-10-02 11:51       ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-03  3:43         ` David Gibson
2025-10-06 22:32           ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-06 23:34             ` David Gibson
2025-10-07 22:42               ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-08  0:41                 ` David Gibson
2025-10-02  0:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] tcp: On partial send (incomplete sendmsg()), request a retransmission right away Stefano Brivio
2025-10-02  3:00   ` David Gibson

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