From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com>, passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/4] tcp: Resend SYN for inbound connections
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:37:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251024103717.715fe49e@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aPrywcaZJUot9Vok@zatzit>
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 14:30:09 +1100
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 01:04:31AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 14:28:37 +0800
> > Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If a client connects while guest is not connected or ready yet,
> > > resend SYN instead of just resetting connection after 10 seconds.
> > >
> > > Use the same backoff calculation for the timeout as linux kernel.
> >
> > Linux.
> >
> > >
> > > Link: https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=153
> > > Signed-off-by: Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > tcp.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> > > tcp.h | 5 +++++
> > > 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tcp.c b/tcp.c
> > > index 2ec4b0c..9385132 100644
> > > --- a/tcp.c
> > > +++ b/tcp.c
> > > @@ -179,9 +179,11 @@
> > > *
> > > * Timeouts are implemented by means of timerfd timers, set based on flags:
> > > *
> > > - * - SYN_TIMEOUT: if no ACK is received from tap/guest during handshake (flag
> > > - * ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE without ESTABLISHED event) within this time, reset the
> > > - * connection
> > > + * - SYN_TIMEOUT_INIT: if no ACK is received from tap/guest during handshake
> > > + * (flag ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE without ESTABLISHED event) within this time, resend
> > > + * SYN. It's the starting timeout for the first SYN retry. If this persists
> >
> > "If this persists" makes sense for the existing ACK_TIMEOUT
> > description but not here, because it looks like it refers to "starting
> > timeout".
> >
> > Coupled with the next patch, it becomes increasingly difficult to
> > understand what "this" persisting thing is.
>
> Yeah. This was my suggested wording, based on the existing wording
> for ACK_TIMEOUT. It's not great, but I struggled a bit to find better
> wording.
>
> > Maybe directly say "Retry for ..., then reset the connection"? It's
> > shorter and clearer.
>
> There it is :). "Retry (NNN) times, then reset the connection".
>
> [snip]
> > > @@ -2409,8 +2419,17 @@ void tcp_timer_handler(const struct ctx *c, union epoll_ref ref)
> > > tcp_timer_ctl(c, conn);
> > > } else if (conn->flags & ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE) {
> > > if (!(conn->events & ESTABLISHED)) {
> > > - flow_dbg(conn, "handshake timeout");
> > > - tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > > + if (conn->retries >= TCP_MAX_RETRIES ||
> > > + conn->retries >= (c->tcp.tcp_syn_retries +
> > > + c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts)) {
> > > + flow_dbg(conn, "handshake timeout");
> > > + tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > > + } else {
> > > + flow_trace(conn, "SYN timeout, retry");
> > > + tcp_send_flag(c, conn, SYN);
> > > + conn->retries++;
> >
> > I think I already raised this point on a previous revision: this needs
> > to be zeroed as the connection is established, but I don't see that in
> > the current version.
>
> Yes, you raised that, but then I realised it's already handled. I
> think I put that in the thread, not just direct to Yumei, but maybe
> not? Or it just got lost in the minutiae.
Yes, here:
https://archives.passt.top/passt-dev/aOxFRfJjPWy0ZW0M@zatzit
this is another example of what I meant about (potential) advantages of
a fully threaded (email) workflow.
In this case, I didn't review v2, which came before you could post this
to my comment on v1, but in a normal case, we could have settled this
earlier, once for all.
> When we receive a SYN-ACK, it will have th->ack_seq advanced a byte
> acknowledging the SYN. tcp_tap_handler() calls
> tcp_update_seqack_from_tap() in the !ESTABLISHED case which will see
> the new ack_seq and clear retries (retrans before this series).
It doesn't look obvious at all to me.
We're unlikely to break it in the future, so I don't think it's fragile
in the long term, but... can one of you double check that it's actually
the case with a manual one-off test?
> > > + tcp_timer_ctl(c, conn);
> > > + }
> > > } else if (CONN_HAS(conn, SOCK_FIN_SENT | TAP_FIN_ACKED)) {
> > > flow_dbg(conn, "FIN timeout");
> > > tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > > @@ -2766,6 +2785,24 @@ static socklen_t tcp_probe_tcp_info(void)
> > > return sl;
> > > }
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * tcp_syn_params_init() - Get initial SYN parameters for inbound connection
> >
> > They're not initial, they'll be used for all the connections if I
> > understand correctly.
> >
> > Maybe "Get SYN retries sysctl values"? I think the _init() in the
> > function name is also somewhat misleading.
>
> "Get host kernel RTO parameters"? Since we're thinking of extending
> this to cover the RTO upper bound as well as the SYN specific
> parameters.
Ah, maybe yes, better.
> > > + * @c: Execution context
> > > +*/
> > > +void tcp_syn_params_init(struct ctx *c)
> > > +{
> > > + intmax_t tcp_syn_retries, syn_linear_timeouts;
> > > +
> > > + tcp_syn_retries = read_file_integer(TCP_SYN_RETRIES, 8);
> >
> > Why 8? Perhaps a #define would help?
> >
> > > + syn_linear_timeouts = read_file_integer(TCP_SYN_LINEAR_TIMEOUTS, 1);
> > > +
> > > + c->tcp.tcp_syn_retries = MIN(tcp_syn_retries, UINT8_MAX);
> > > + c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts = MIN(syn_linear_timeouts, UINT8_MAX);
> > > +
> > > + debug("TCP SYN parameters: retries=%"PRIu8", linear_timeouts=%"PRIu8,
> >
> > Similar to the comment above: these are not parameters of SYN segments
> > (which would seem to imply TCP options, such as the MSS).
> >
> > We typically don't print C assignments, rather human-readable messages,
> > so that could be "Read sysctl values tcp_syn_retries: ...,
> > syn_linear_timeouts: ...".
> >
> >
> > > + c->tcp.tcp_syn_retries, c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > /**
> > > * tcp_init() - Get initial sequence, hash secret, initialise per-socket data
> > > * @c: Execution context
> > > @@ -2776,6 +2813,8 @@ int tcp_init(struct ctx *c)
> > > {
> > > ASSERT(!c->no_tcp);
> > >
> > > + tcp_syn_params_init(c);
> > > +
> > > tcp_sock_iov_init(c);
> > >
> > > memset(init_sock_pool4, 0xff, sizeof(init_sock_pool4));
> > > diff --git a/tcp.h b/tcp.h
> > > index 234a803..4369b52 100644
> > > --- a/tcp.h
> > > +++ b/tcp.h
> > > @@ -59,12 +59,17 @@ union tcp_listen_epoll_ref {
> > > * @fwd_out: Port forwarding configuration for outbound packets
> > > * @timer_run: Timestamp of most recent timer run
> > > * @pipe_size: Size of pipes for spliced connections
> > > + * @tcp_syn_retries: Number of SYN retries during handshake
> > > + * @syn_linear_timeouts: Number of SYN retries using linear backoff timeout
> > > + * before switching to exponential backoff timeout
> >
> > Maybe more compact:
> >
> > * @syn_linear_timeouts: SYN retries before using exponential timeout
> >
> > > */
> > > struct tcp_ctx {
> > > struct fwd_ports fwd_in;
> > > struct fwd_ports fwd_out;
> > > struct timespec timer_run;
> > > size_t pipe_size;
> > > + uint8_t tcp_syn_retries;
> > > + uint8_t syn_linear_timeouts;
> > > };
> > >
> > > #endif /* TCP_H */
--
Stefano
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-24 8:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-17 6:28 [PATCH v6 0/4] Retry SYNs " Yumei Huang
2025-10-17 6:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] tcp: Rename "retrans" to "retries" Yumei Huang
2025-10-17 6:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] util: Introduce read_file() and read_file_integer() function Yumei Huang
2025-10-19 10:07 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-21 9:32 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-21 21:50 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-22 0:51 ` David Gibson
2025-10-22 8:42 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-22 0:55 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-23 23:04 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-24 3:16 ` David Gibson
2025-10-24 6:05 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-28 7:11 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-28 11:43 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-17 6:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] tcp: Resend SYN for inbound connections Yumei Huang
2025-10-22 1:16 ` David Gibson
2025-10-22 1:30 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-22 2:26 ` David Gibson
2025-10-23 23:04 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-24 3:30 ` David Gibson
2025-10-24 8:37 ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-10-24 10:55 ` David Gibson
2025-10-27 3:37 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-27 6:49 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-28 7:43 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-28 11:44 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-29 2:31 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-17 6:28 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] tcp: Update data retransmission timeout Yumei Huang
2025-10-22 1:19 ` David Gibson
2025-10-22 8:40 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-23 23:04 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-28 8:09 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-28 11:44 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-28 11:54 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-29 3:06 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-29 4:38 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-29 5:11 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-29 7:09 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-29 7:32 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-29 7:39 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-29 8:59 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-29 12:18 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-10-30 8:25 ` Yumei Huang
2025-10-30 8:51 ` Stefano Brivio
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