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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com>, passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/6] tcp: Resend SYN for inbound connections
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 01:00:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251114010053.62389abd@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRHCnzgSgAn_SOwR@zatzit>

On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 21:46:55 +1100
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 05:31:35PM +0800, Yumei Huang wrote:
> > If a client connects while guest is not connected or ready yet,
> > resend SYN instead of just resetting connection after 10 seconds.
> > 
> > Use the same backoff calculation for the timeout as Linux kernel.
> > 
> > Link: https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=153
> > Signed-off-by: Yumei Huang <yuhuang@redhat.com>  
> 
> Reviewed-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> 
> Though I have one small concern remaining
> 
> > ---
> >  tcp.c | 62 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> >  tcp.h |  4 ++++
> >  2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/tcp.c b/tcp.c
> > index 2f49327..da40a99 100644
> > --- a/tcp.c
> > +++ b/tcp.c
> > @@ -179,9 +179,11 @@
> >   *
> >   * Timeouts are implemented by means of timerfd timers, set based on flags:
> >   *
> > - * - SYN_TIMEOUT: if no ACK is received from tap/guest during handshake (flag
> > - *   ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE without ESTABLISHED event) within this time, reset the
> > - *   connection
> > + * - SYN_TIMEOUT_INIT: if no SYN,ACK is received from tap/guest during
> > + *   handshake (flag ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE without ESTABLISHED event) within
> > + *   this time, resend SYN. It's the starting timeout for the first SYN
> > + *   retry. Retry for TCP_MAX_RETRIES or (syn_retries + syn_linear_timeouts)
> > + *   times, reset the connection
> >   *
> >   * - ACK_TIMEOUT: if no ACK segment was received from tap/guest, after sending
> >   *   data (flag ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE with ESTABLISHED event), re-send data from the
> > @@ -340,7 +342,7 @@ enum {
> >  #define WINDOW_DEFAULT			14600		/* RFC 6928 */
> >  
> >  #define ACK_INTERVAL			10		/* ms */
> > -#define SYN_TIMEOUT			10		/* s */
> > +#define SYN_TIMEOUT_INIT		1		/* s, RFC 6928 */
> >  #define ACK_TIMEOUT			2
> >  #define FIN_TIMEOUT			60
> >  #define ACT_TIMEOUT			7200
> > @@ -365,6 +367,13 @@ uint8_t tcp_migrate_rcv_queue		[TCP_MIGRATE_RCV_QUEUE_MAX];
> >  
> >  #define TCP_MIGRATE_RESTORE_CHUNK_MIN	1024 /* Try smaller when above this */
> >  
> > +#define SYN_RETRIES		"/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries"
> > +#define SYN_LINEAR_TIMEOUTS	"/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_linear_timeouts"
> > +
> > +#define SYN_RETRIES_DEFAULT		6
> > +#define SYN_LINEAR_TIMEOUTS_DEFAULT	4
> > +#define MAX_SYNCNT			127 /* derived from kernel's limit */
> > +
> >  /* "Extended" data (not stored in the flow table) for TCP flow migration */
> >  static struct tcp_tap_transfer_ext migrate_ext[FLOW_MAX];
> >  
> > @@ -585,10 +594,13 @@ static void tcp_timer_ctl(const struct ctx *c, struct tcp_tap_conn *conn)
> >  	if (conn->flags & ACK_TO_TAP_DUE) {
> >  		it.it_value.tv_nsec = (long)ACK_INTERVAL * 1000 * 1000;
> >  	} else if (conn->flags & ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE) {
> > -		if (!(conn->events & ESTABLISHED))
> > -			it.it_value.tv_sec = SYN_TIMEOUT;
> > -		else
> > +		if (!(conn->events & ESTABLISHED)) {
> > +			int exp = conn->retries - c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts;  
> 
> As discussed in the thread on the last version, the subtraction will
> be done unsigned, so the final result depends on behaviour of casting
> a "negative" (that is, close to max value) unsigned value into a
> signed variable.  I'm pretty sure that will do the right thing in
> practice, but I don't believe that behaviour is guaranteed by the C
> standard.

Surprisingly to me, C99 6.2.6.2 "Integer types" admits three
interpretations of the sign bit for signed types, quoting:

  — the corresponding value with sign bit 0 is negated (sign and
    magnitude);
  — the sign bit has the value −(2N ) (two’s complement);
  — the sign bit has the value −(2N − 1) (ones’ complement).

and this, together with the conversion rule from 6.3.1.3 "Signed
and unsigned integers":

  Otherwise, the new type is signed and the value cannot be represented
  in it; either the result is implementation-defined or an
  implementation-defined signal is raised.

seems to confirm your interpretation, even though I'm really having
a hard time convincing myself that we should actually do stuff like:

			int exp;

			exp = (int)conn->retries - c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts;

and I still have the suspicion we're missing something. Is this syntax
what you're suggesting, by the way?

> This probably isn't worth a respin, though.

Maybe not but:

> > +			it.it_value.tv_sec = SYN_TIMEOUT_INIT << MAX(exp, 0);
> > +		}
> > +		else {

this is another bit I would need to change. The coding style dictates:

		if (x) {
			...
		} else {
			...
		}

*not*:

		if (x) {
			...
		}
		else {
			...
		}

...on the other hand, it goes away in 5/6, so I don't care
particularly.

It still matters a very tiny bit because if we need to revert the
commit resulting from 5/6 for any reason we'll end up with broken
coding style. But that's not a realistic scenario and it's very minor
anyway.

> >  			it.it_value.tv_sec = ACK_TIMEOUT;
> > +		}
> >  	} else if (CONN_HAS(conn, SOCK_FIN_SENT | TAP_FIN_ACKED)) {
> >  		it.it_value.tv_sec = FIN_TIMEOUT;
> >  	} else {
> > @@ -2425,8 +2437,18 @@ void tcp_timer_handler(const struct ctx *c, union epoll_ref ref)
> >  		tcp_timer_ctl(c, conn);
> >  	} else if (conn->flags & ACK_FROM_TAP_DUE) {
> >  		if (!(conn->events & ESTABLISHED)) {
> > -			flow_dbg(conn, "handshake timeout");
> > -			tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > +			int max;
> > +			max = c->tcp.syn_retries + c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts;
> > +			max = MIN(TCP_MAX_RETRIES, max);
> > +			if (conn->retries >= max) {
> > +				flow_dbg(conn, "handshake timeout");
> > +				tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > +			} else {
> > +				flow_trace(conn, "SYN timeout, retry");
> > +				tcp_send_flag(c, conn, SYN);
> > +				conn->retries++;
> > +				tcp_timer_ctl(c, conn);
> > +			}
> >  		} else if (CONN_HAS(conn, SOCK_FIN_SENT | TAP_FIN_ACKED)) {
> >  			flow_dbg(conn, "FIN timeout");
> >  			tcp_rst(c, conn);
> > @@ -2782,6 +2804,26 @@ static socklen_t tcp_probe_tcp_info(void)
> >  	return sl;
> >  }
> >  
> > +/**
> > + * tcp_get_rto_params() - Get host kernel RTO parameters
> > + * @c:		Execution context
> > + */
> > +void tcp_get_rto_params(struct ctx *c)
> > +{
> > +	intmax_t v;
> > +
> > +	v = read_file_integer(SYN_RETRIES, SYN_RETRIES_DEFAULT);
> > +	c->tcp.syn_retries = MIN(v, MAX_SYNCNT);
> > +
> > +	v = read_file_integer(SYN_LINEAR_TIMEOUTS, SYN_LINEAR_TIMEOUTS_DEFAULT);
> > +	c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts = MIN(v, MAX_SYNCNT);
> > +
> > +	debug("Read sysctl values syn_retries: %"PRIu8
> > +	      ", syn_linear_timeouts: %"PRIu8,
> > +	      c->tcp.syn_retries,
> > +	      c->tcp.syn_linear_timeouts);
> > +}
> > +
> >  /**
> >   * tcp_init() - Get initial sequence, hash secret, initialise per-socket data
> >   * @c:		Execution context
> > @@ -2792,6 +2834,8 @@ int tcp_init(struct ctx *c)
> >  {
> >  	ASSERT(!c->no_tcp);
> >  
> > +	tcp_get_rto_params(c);
> > +
> >  	tcp_sock_iov_init(c);
> >  
> >  	memset(init_sock_pool4,		0xff,	sizeof(init_sock_pool4));
> > diff --git a/tcp.h b/tcp.h
> > index 0082386..37d7758 100644
> > --- a/tcp.h
> > +++ b/tcp.h
> > @@ -60,12 +60,16 @@ union tcp_listen_epoll_ref {
> >   * @fwd_out:		Port forwarding configuration for outbound packets
> >   * @timer_run:		Timestamp of most recent timer run
> >   * @pipe_size:		Size of pipes for spliced connections
> > + * @syn_retries:	SYN retries using exponential backoff timeout
> > + * @syn_linear_timeouts: SYN retries before using exponential backoff timeout
> >   */
> >  struct tcp_ctx {
> >  	struct fwd_ports fwd_in;
> >  	struct fwd_ports fwd_out;
> >  	struct timespec timer_run;
> >  	size_t pipe_size;
> > +	uint8_t syn_retries;
> > +	uint8_t syn_linear_timeouts;
> >  };
> >  
> >  #endif /* TCP_H */
> > -- 
> > 2.51.0

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10  9:31 [PATCH v8 0/6] Retry SYNs " Yumei Huang
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] tcp: Rename "retrans" to "retries" Yumei Huang
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] util: Introduce read_file() and read_file_integer() function Yumei Huang
2025-11-14  0:01   ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-14  1:58     ` Yumei Huang
2025-11-14  4:32       ` David Gibson
2025-11-14 10:12       ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-17  1:10         ` Yumei Huang
2025-11-18  0:19           ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-18  0:19   ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-18  3:22     ` David Gibson
2025-11-19  9:04       ` Yumei Huang
2025-11-19  9:38         ` David Gibson
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] tcp: Add parameter struct ctx *c to tcp_timer_ctl() Yumei Huang
2025-11-10 10:35   ` David Gibson
2025-11-14  0:01     ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-14  0:36       ` David Gibson
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] tcp: Resend SYN for inbound connections Yumei Huang
2025-11-10 10:46   ` David Gibson
2025-11-14  0:00     ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-11-14  0:31       ` David Gibson
2025-11-18  0:19   ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] tcp: Update data retransmission timeout Yumei Huang
2025-11-10  9:31 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] tcp: Clamp the retry timeout Yumei Huang
2025-11-10 10:56   ` David Gibson
2025-11-14  0:01     ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-14  0:35       ` David Gibson
2025-11-14  3:05         ` Yumei Huang
2025-11-14  3:35           ` David Gibson
2025-11-17  2:38             ` Yumei Huang
2025-11-17  4:50               ` David Gibson
2025-11-18  0:19             ` Stefano Brivio

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