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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 9/9] tcp, udp: Bind outbound listening sockets by interface instead of address
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 04:56:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251121045601.021b1793@elisabeth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251119052257.3004500-10-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

The series looks good to me in general, except that:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 16:22:57 +1100
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:

> Currently, outbound forwards (-T, -U) are handled by sockets bound to the
> loopback address.  Typically we create two sockets, one for 127.0.0.1 and
> one for ::1.
> 
> This has some disadvantages:
>  * The guest can't connect via 127.0.0.0/8 addresses other than 127.0.0.1
>  * We can't use dual-stack sockets, we have to have separate sockets for
>    IPv4 and IPv6.
> 
> The restriction exists for a reason though.  If the guest has any
> interfaces other than pasta (e.g. a VPN tunnel) external hosts could reach
> the host via the forwards.  Especially combined with -T auto / -U auto this
> would make it very easy to make a mistake with nasty security implications.
> 
> We can achieve this a different way, however.  Don't bind to a specific
> address, but _do_ use SO_BINDTODEVICE to restrict the sockets to the "lo"
> interface.

...this means, as I pointed out on:

  https://archives.passt.top/passt-dev/20251022105916.53925523@elisabeth/

that we might break functionality for a number of pasta(1) users.

I don't have a complete version of the SO_BINDTODEVICE fallback I
sketched there, so I can't just add one on top of this series at the
moment, but we need something like that before I can merge this.

-- 
Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-21  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-19  5:22 [PATCH v4 0/9] Reduce differences between inbound and outbound socket binding David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] flow: Remove bogus @path field from flowside_sock_args David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] inany: Let length of sockaddr_inany be implicit from the family David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] util, flow, pif: Simplify sock_l4_sa() interface David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] tcp: Merge tcp_ns_sock_init[46]() into tcp_sock_init_one() David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] udp: Unify some more inbound/outbound parts of udp_sock_init() David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] udp: Move udp_sock_init() special case to its caller David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] util: Fix setting of IPV6_V6ONLY socket option David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] tcp, udp: Remove fallback if creating dual stack socket fails David Gibson
2025-11-19  5:22 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] tcp, udp: Bind outbound listening sockets by interface instead of address David Gibson
2025-11-21  3:56   ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2025-11-21  5:24     ` David Gibson
2025-11-21  5:39       ` Stefano Brivio
2025-11-26  5:42     ` David Gibson

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