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From: Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
	passt-dev@passt.top, sbrivio@redhat.com, lvivier@redhat.com,
	dgibson@redhat.com, memnglong8.dong@gmail.com,
	kerneljasonxing@gmail.com, ncardwell@google.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [net,v3] tcp: correct handling of extreme memory squeeze
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 11:51:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <415dde0a-2272-45d2-8fa8-473fe7637a78@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89i+x2RGHDA6W-oo=Hs8bM=4Ao_aAKFsRrFhq=U133j+FvA@mail.gmail.com>



On 2025-01-28 10:04, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 12:13 AM <jmaloy@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>
>>
>> Testing with iperf3 using the "pasta" protocol splicer has revealed
>> a bug in the way tcp handles window advertising in extreme memory
>> squeeze situations.
>>
>> Under memory pressure, a socket endpoint may temporarily advertise
>> a zero-sized window, but this is not stored as part of the socket data.
>> The reasoning behind this is that it is considered a temporary setting
>> which shouldn't influence any further calculations.
>>
>> However, if we happen to stall at an unfortunate value of the current
>> window size, the algorithm selecting a new value will consistently fail
>> to advertise a non-zero window once we have freed up enough memory.
>> This means that this side's notion of the current window size is
>> different from the one last advertised to the peer, causing the latter
>> to not send any data to resolve the sitution.
>>
>> The problem occurs on the iperf3 server side, and the socket in question
>> is a completely regular socket with the default settings for the
>> fedora40 kernel. We do not use SO_PEEK or SO_RCVBUF on the socket.
>>
>> The following excerpt of a logging session, with own comments added,
>> shows more in detail what is happening:
>>
>> //              tcp_v4_rcv(->)
>> //                tcp_rcv_established(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:     ==== Activating log @ net/ipv4/tcp_input.c/tcp_data_queue()/5257 ====
>> [5201<->39222]:     tcp_data_queue(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:        DROPPING skb [265600160..265665640], reason: SKB_DROP_REASON_PROTO_MEM
>>                         [rcv_nxt 265600160, rcv_wnd 262144, snt_ack 265469200, win_now 131184]
>>                         [copied_seq 259909392->260034360 (124968), unread 5565800, qlen 85, ofoq 0]
>>                         [OFO queue: gap: 65480, len: 0]
>> [5201<->39222]:     tcp_data_queue(<-)
>> [5201<->39222]:     __tcp_transmit_skb(->)
>>                          [tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160]
>> [5201<->39222]:       tcp_select_window(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:         (inet_csk(sk)->icsk_ack.pending & ICSK_ACK_NOMEM) ? --> TRUE
>>                          [tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160]
>>                          returning 0
>> [5201<->39222]:       tcp_select_window(<-)
>> [5201<->39222]:       ADVERTISING WIN 0, ACK_SEQ: 265600160
>> [5201<->39222]:     [__tcp_transmit_skb(<-)
>> [5201<->39222]:   tcp_rcv_established(<-)
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_v4_rcv(<-)
>>
>> // Receive queue is at 85 buffers and we are out of memory.
>> // We drop the incoming buffer, although it is in sequence, and decide
>> // to send an advertisement with a window of zero.
>> // We don't update tp->rcv_wnd and tp->rcv_wup accordingly, which means
>> // we unconditionally shrink the window.
>>
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(->) tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win = 0, win_now = 131184, 2 * win_now = 262368]
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win >= (2 * win_now) ? --> time_to_ack = 0]
>> [5201<->39222]:     NOT calling tcp_send_ack()
>>                      [tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160]
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(<-)
>>                    [rcv_nxt 265600160, rcv_wnd 262144, snt_ack 265469200, win_now 131184]
>>                    [copied_seq 260040464->260040464 (0), unread 5559696, qlen 85, ofoq 0]
>>                    returning 6104 bytes
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(<-)
>>
>> // After each read, the algorithm for calculating the new receive
>> // window in __tcp_cleanup_rbuf() finds it is too small to advertise
>> // or to update tp->rcv_wnd.
>> // Meanwhile, the peer thinks the window is zero, and will not send
>> // any more data to trigger an update from the interrupt mode side.
>>
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(->) tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win = 262144, win_now = 131184, 2 * win_now = 262368]
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win >= (2 * win_now) ? --> time_to_ack = 0]
>> [5201<->39222]:     NOT calling tcp_send_ack()
>>                      [tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160]
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(<-)
>>                    [rcv_nxt 265600160, rcv_wnd 262144, snt_ack 265469200, win_now 131184]
>>                    [copied_seq 260099840->260171536 (71696), unread 5428624, qlen 83, ofoq 0]
>>                    returning 131072 bytes
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(<-)
>>
>> // The above pattern repeats again and again, since nothing changes
>> // between the reads.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(->)
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(->) tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win = 262144, win_now = 131184, 2 * win_now = 262368]
>> [5201<->39222]:     [new_win >= (2 * win_now) ? --> time_to_ack = 0]
>> [5201<->39222]:     NOT calling tcp_send_ack()
>>                      [tp->rcv_wup: 265469200, tp->rcv_wnd: 262144, tp->rcv_nxt 265600160]
>> [5201<->39222]:   __tcp_cleanup_rbuf(<-)
>>                    [rcv_nxt 265600160, rcv_wnd 262144, snt_ack 265469200, win_now 131184]
>>                    [copied_seq 265600160->265600160 (0), unread 0, qlen 0, ofoq 0]
>>                    returning 54672 bytes
>> [5201<->39222]: tcp_recvmsg_locked(<-)
>>
>> // The receive queue is empty, but no new advertisement has been sent.
>> // The peer still thinks the receive window is zero, and sends nothing.
>> // We have ended up in a deadlock situation.
> 
> This so-called 'deadlock' only occurs if a remote TCP stack is unable
> to send win0 probes.
> 
> In this case, sending some ACK will not help reliably if these ACK get lost.
> 
> I find the description tries very hard to hide a bug in another stack,
> for some reason.

I clearly stated in a previous comment that this was the case, and that
it has been fixed now. My reason for posting this is because I still
think this is a bug, just as I think the way we use rcv_ssthresh in 
_tcp_select)window() is a bug that eventually should be fixed.

> 
> When under memory stress, not sending an opening ACK as fast as possible,
> giving time for the host to recover from this memory stress was also a
> sensible thing to do.
> 
> Reviewed-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> 
> Thanks for the fix.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-28 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-27 23:13 [net,v3] tcp: correct handling of extreme memory squeeze jmaloy
2025-01-28  0:52 ` Jason Xing
2025-01-28 15:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-28 15:18   ` Stefano Brivio
2025-01-28 15:56   ` Neal Cardwell
2025-01-28 16:01     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-28 16:51   ` Jon Maloy [this message]
2025-01-28 17:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-30  3:10 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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