From: Paul Holzinger <pholzing@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: Option parsing: Allow the same option multiple times
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:50:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e558e41-f3f9-9037-b940-49a030a561b4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230619081631.48df2a43@elisabeth>
On 19/06/2023 08:18, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:49:42 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:04:00PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 14:57:37 +0200
>>> Paul Holzinger <pholzing@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> following up on a quick discussion with Stefano on IRC.
>>>>
>>>> passt/pasta currently rejects most (not all) options when specified
>>>> multiple times, i.e. pasta -I eth0 -I eth1 ... fails. I think it makes
>>>> more sense to just use the last one instead.
>>>>
>>>> My use case: In podman I added a new containers.conf option[1] which
>>>> allows users to set default pasta cli options. However users can also
>>>> add options on the podman cli with podman run --net=pasta:... For me it
>>>> would make the most sense to just append those to the config options and
>>>> then let pasta deal with it. This allows some form of overwrite
>>>> mechanism, i.e. by default I may have "-I" , "eth0" in containers.conf
>>>> but for one specific container I want to use a different interface name
>>>> and set --net=pasta:-I,eth1 on the cli. Then podman should just hand "-I
>>>> eth0 -I eth1" to pasta and then pasta picks the last one.
>>>>
>>>> If we keep the current behavior it means I am forced to parse the
>>>> options in podman and dedup them which is hard to maintain as podman
>>>> would need to keep up with pasta upstream.
>>> I had to do something similar in libpod/networking_pasta_linux.go,
>>> which, if you change this, could also be simplified a bit.
>>>
>>>> I am willing to send a patch to change this so please let me know if
>>>> anyone would object to that.
>>> For the record, as I mentioned on IRC, I think it makes sense.
>>>
>>> Maybe it's less "correct" as a behaviour, and it would make it a bit
>>> harder for users to spot (unlikely) mistakes on the command line, but
>>> making integrations simpler probably outweighs this.
>>>
>>> I don't have a good idea for sentences like "This option can be
>>> specified zero (for defaults) to two times (once for IPv4, once for IPv6)."
>>> that are currently in the man page... maybe we could switch from
>>> "This option can be specified" to "This option specifies one to two..."
>>> and similar.
>> So, I'm actually a bit hesitant about applying this treatment (allow
>> multiple, last one wins) to -a specifically. The reason being that we
>> have draft plans to allow multiple addresses within the guest/ns.
>> That might logically lead to allowing arbitrary numbers of -a options
>> in future, where *all* the addresses apply. If we'd previously
>> allowed multiple options, but only the last one applies, that might be
>> a breaking semantic change.
> Uh oh, right... and it might also apply to -g / --gateway eventually.
>
> On the other hand: are two semantic changes (both of which not breaking
> any reasonable or expected previous usage) in a relatively short period
> of time so much worse than one (we plan to change -a handling anyway)?
>
> I guess handling -a differently in Podman's options would still be
> additional effort for Paul. In my opinion, as long as we keep man pages
> updated, we should still prioritise making our lives (and the code!)
> easier.
>
If you plan to make changes like that I agree that supporting it might
result in possible breaking changes for some users.
However I like to point out that the current behavior is inconsistent
and only works for some options which is the reason I thought this would
work in the first place, namely it works fine with `--ns-mac-addr` right
now.
Another option for Podman would be to discard the options from the conf
file when cli options are set so it is either or. Easy to do but I think
it is not so great for users as this means a user would need to type all
options again if they just want to change a single one.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-20 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-15 12:57 Option parsing: Allow the same option multiple times Paul Holzinger
2023-06-16 21:04 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-06-19 4:49 ` David Gibson
2023-06-19 6:18 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-06-20 14:50 ` Paul Holzinger [this message]
2023-06-20 15:09 ` Stefano Brivio
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