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From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Nelson <jenelson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: vhost-kernel net on pasta: from 26 to 37Gbit/s
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 12:35:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJaqyWfVwZ200CAO2NwbF+i8RZi=NGrsnPOWuwJ6L7ELV=3jEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250521120855.5cdaeb04@elisabeth>

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 12:09 PM Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2025 17:09:44 +0200
> Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > Now if I isolate the vhost kernel thread [1] I get way more
> > performance as expected:
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
> > [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  43.1 GBytes  37.1 Gbits/sec    0             sender
> > [  5]   0.00-10.04  sec  43.1 GBytes  36.9 Gbits/sec                  receiver
> >
> > After analyzing perf output, rep_movs_alternative is the most called
> > function in the three iperf3 (~20%Self), passt.avx2 (~15%Self) and
> > vhost (~15%Self)
>
> Interesting... s/most called function/function using the most cycles/, I
> suppose.
>

Right!

> So it looks somewhat similar to
>
>   https://archives.passt.top/passt-dev/20241017021027.2ac9ea53@elisabeth/
>
> now?
>

Kind of. Below tcp_sendmsg_locked I don't see sk_page_frag_refill but
skb_do_copy_data_nocache. Not sure if that means something, as it
should not be affected by vhost.

> > But I don't see any of them consuming 100% of CPU in
> > top: pasta consumes ~85% %CPU, both iperf3 client and server consumes
> > 60%, and vhost consumes ~53%.
> >
> > So... I have mixed feelings about this :). By "default" it seems to
> > have less performance, but my test is maybe too synthetic.
>
> Well, surely we can't ask Podman users to pin specific stuff to given
> CPU threads. :)
>

Yes but maybe the result changes under the right schedule? I'm
isolating the CPUs entirely, which is not the usual case for pasta for
sure :).

> > There is room for improvement with the mentioned optimizations so I'd
> > continue applying them, continuing with UDP and TCP zerocopy, and
> > developing zerocopy vhost rx.
>
> That definitely makes sense to me.
>

Good!

> > With these numbers I think the series should not be
> > merged at the moment. I could send it as RFC if you want but I've not
> > applied the comments the first one received, POC style :).
>
> I don't think it's really needed for you to spend time on
> semi-polishing something just to have an RFC if you're still working on
> it. I guess the implementation will change substantially anyway once
> you factor in further optimisations.
>

Agree! I'll keep iterating on this then.

Thanks!


      reply	other threads:[~2025-05-21 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 15:09 vhost-kernel net on pasta: from 26 to 37Gbit/s Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-05-21  0:57 ` Jason Wang
2025-05-21  5:37   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2025-05-21 10:08 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-05-21 10:35   ` Eugenio Perez Martin [this message]

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