From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] More graceful handling of migration without passt-repair
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:27:32 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z75f9IDhnLS7UmDW@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250225184316.407247f4@elisabeth>
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 06:43:16PM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:51:30 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > From Red Hat internal testing we've had some reports that if
> > attempting to migrate without passt-repair, the failure mode is uglier
> > than we'd like. The migration fails, which is somewhat expected, but
> > we don't correctly roll things back on the source, so it breaks
> > network there as well.
> >
> > Handle this more gracefully allowing the migration to proceed in this
> > case, but allow TCP connections to break
> >
> > I've now tested this reasonably:
> > * I get a clean migration if there are now active flows
> > * Migration completes, although connections are broken if
> > passt-repair isn't connected
> > * Basic test suite (minus perf)
> >
> > I didn't manage to test with libvirt yet, but I'm pretty convinced the
> > behaviour should be better than it was.
>
> I did, and it is. The series looks good to me and I would apply it as
> it is, but I'm waiting a bit longer in case you want to try out some
> variations based on my tests as well. Here's what I did.
[snip]
Thanks for the detailed instructions. More complex than I might have
liked, but oh well.
> $ virsh migrate --verbose --p2p --live --unsafe alpine --tunneled qemu+ssh://88.198.0.161:10951/session
> Migration: [97.59 %]error: End of file while reading data: : Input/output error
>
> ...despite --verbose the error doesn't tell much (perhaps I need
> LIBVIRT_DEBUG=1 instead?), but passt terminates at this point. With
> this series (I just used 'make install' from the local build), migration
> succeeds instead:
>
> $ virsh migrate --verbose --p2p --live --unsafe alpine --tunneled qemu+ssh://88.198.0.161:10951/session
> Migration: [100.00 %]
>
> Now, on the target, I still have to figure out how to tell libvirt
> to start QEMU and prepare for the migration (equivalent of '-incoming'
> as we use in our tests), instead of just starting a new instance like
> it does. Otherwise, I have no chance to start passt-repair there.
> Perhaps it has something to do with persistent mode described here:
Ah. So I'm pretty sure virsh migrate will automatically start qemu
with --incoming on the target. IIUC the problem here is more about
timing: we want it to start it early, so that we have a chance to
start passt-repair and let it connect before the migration actually
happens.
Crud... I didn't think of this before. I don't know that there's any
sensible way to do this without having libvirt managing passt-repair
as well. I mean it's not impossible there's some option to do this,
but I doubt there's been any reason before for something outside of
libvirt to control the timing of the target qemu's creation. I think
we need to ask libvirt people about this.
> https://libvirt.org/migration.html#configuration-file-handling
Yeah.. I don't think this is relevant.
> and --listen-address, but I'm not quite sure yet.
>
> That is, I could only test different failures (early one on source, or
> later one on target) with this, not a complete successful migration.
>
> > There are more fragile cases that I'm looking to fix, particularly the
> > die()s in flow_migrate_source_rollback() and elsewhere, however I ran
> > into various complications that I didn't manage to sort out today.
> > I'll continue looking at those tomorrow. I'm now pretty confident
> > that those additional fixes won't entirely supersede the changes in
> > this series, so it should be fine to apply these on their own.
>
> By the way, I think the somewhat less fragile/more obvious case where
> we fail clumsily is when the target doesn't have the same address as
> the source (among other possible addresses). In that case, we fail (and
> terminate) with a rather awkward:
Ah, yes, that is a higher priority fragile case.
> 93.7217: ERROR: Failed to bind socket for migrated flow: Cannot assign requested address
> 93.7218: ERROR: Flow 0 (TCP connection): Can't set up socket: (null), drop
> 93.7331: ERROR: Selecting TCP_SEND_QUEUE, socket 1: Socket operation on non-socket
> 93.7333: ERROR: Unexpected reply from TCP_REPAIR helper: -100
>
> that's because, oops, I only took care of socket() failures in
> tcp_flow_repair_socket(), but not bind() failures (!). Sorry.
No, you check for errors on both. The problem is that in
tcp_flow_migrate_target() we cancel the flow allocation and carry on -
but the source will still send information for this flow, putting us
out of sync with the stream.
> Once that's fixed, flow_migrate_target() should also take care of
> decreasing 'count' accordingly. I just had a glimpse but didn't
> really try to sketch a fix.
Adjusting count won't do the job. Instead we'd need to keep the flow
around, but marked as "dead" somehow, so that we read but discard the
incoming information for it. The MIGRATING state I added in one of my
drafts was supposed to help with this sort of thing. But that's quite
a complex change.
Hrm... at least in the near term, I think it might actually be easier
to set IP_FREEBIND when we create sockets for in-migrating flows.
That way we can process them normally, they just won't do much without
the address set. It has the additional advantage that it should work
if the higher layers only move the IP just after the migration,
instead of in advance.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-26 0:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-25 5:51 [PATCH v2 0/2] More graceful handling of migration without passt-repair David Gibson
2025-02-25 5:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] migrate, flow: Trivially succeed if migrating with no flows David Gibson
2025-02-25 5:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] migrate, flow: Don't attempt to migrate TCP flows without passt-repair David Gibson
2025-02-25 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] More graceful handling of migration " Stefano Brivio
2025-02-26 0:27 ` David Gibson [this message]
2025-02-26 8:09 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-02-26 8:51 ` David Gibson
2025-02-26 11:24 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-02-27 1:43 ` David Gibson
2025-02-27 4:32 ` Stefano Brivio
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