From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, Callum Parsey <callum@neoninteger.au>,
me@yawnt.com, lemmi@nerd2nerd.org,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy routes from outer namespace
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 13:08:21 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGwuJRvOnMDqwVGx@yekko> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230522115851.2c7f7736@elisabeth>
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On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:58:51AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Mon, 22 May 2023 18:42:01 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 01:42:17AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > Instead of just fetching the default gateway and configuring a single
> > > equivalent route in the target namespace, on 'pasta --config-net', it
> > > might be desirable in some cases to copy the whole set of routes
> > > corresponding to a given output interface.
> > >
> > > For instance, in:
> > > https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/18539
> > > IPv4 Default Route Does Not Propagate to Pasta Containers on Hetzner VPSes
> > >
> > > configuring the default gateway won't work without a gateway-less
> > > route (specifying the output interface only), because the default
> > > gateway is, somewhat dubiously, not on the same subnet as the
> > > container.
> > >
> > > This is a similar case to the one covered by commit 7656a6f88882
> > > ("conf: Adjust netmask on mismatch between IPv4 address/netmask and
> > > gateway"), and I'm not exactly proud of that workaround.
> > >
> > > We also have:
> > > https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=49
> > > pasta does not work with tap-style interface
> > >
> > > for which, eventually, we should be able to configure a gateway-less
> > > route in the target namespace.
> > >
> > > Introduce different operation modes for nl_route(), including a new
> > > NL_DUP one, not exposed yet, which simply parrots back to the kernel
> > > the route dump for a given interface from the outer namespace, fixing
> > > up flags and interface indices on the way, and requesting to add the
> > > same routes in the target namespace, on the interface we manage.
> > >
> > > For n routes we want to duplicate, send n identical netlink requests
> > > including the full dump: routes might depend on each other and the
> > > kernel processes RTM_NEWROUTE messages sequentially, not atomically,
> > > and repeating the full dump naturally resolves dependencies without
> > > the need to actually calculate them.
> > >
> > > I'm not kidding, it actually works pretty well.
> >
> > If there's a way to detect whether the kernel rejected some of the
> > routes, it would be nice to cut that loop short as soon as all the
> > routes are inserted. Obviously that could be a followup improvement,
> > though.
>
> Yes, there's a way, but to keep things asynchronous in a simple way we
> process errors from nl_req() only at the next request.
>
> This part doesn't really need to be asynchronous, though: we could add
> a flag for nl_req() saying that we want to know about NLMSG_ERROR right
> away. This looks relatively straightforward, and already an improvement
> in the sense you mentioned.
>
> Actually parsing the error and finding out the offending route is a bit
> more complicated, though.
Right, but we don't necessarily need to do that: all we need is that
if there are *no* errors we can stop the loop early.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-23 3:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-21 23:42 [PATCH v2 00/10] Optionally copy all routes and addresses for pasta, allow gateway-less routes Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] netlink: Fix comment about response buffer size for nl_req() Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] pasta: Improve error handling on failure to join network namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy routes from outer namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22 8:42 ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 9:58 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-23 3:08 ` David Gibson [this message]
2023-05-23 6:14 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-27 2:06 ` David Gibson
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] conf: --config-net option is for pasta mode only Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] conf, pasta: With --config-net, copy all routes by default Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22 8:44 ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 9:59 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] Revert "conf: Adjust netmask on mismatch between IPv4 address/netmask and gateway" Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] conf: Don't exit if sourced default route has no gateway Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22 8:48 ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 15:29 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] netlink: Add functionality to copy addresses from outer namespace Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22 8:51 ` David Gibson
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] conf, pasta: With --config-net, copy all addresses by default Stefano Brivio
2023-05-22 8:53 ` David Gibson
2023-05-22 15:30 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-05-21 23:42 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] passt.h: Fix description of pasta_ifi in struct ctx Stefano Brivio
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