From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: Matej Hrica <mhrica@redhat.com>, passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFT 0/5] Fixes and a workaround for TCP stalls with small buffers
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:52:11 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZREgC/uksH+2ol1b@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230922220610.58767-1-sbrivio@redhat.com>
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On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 12:06:05AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> The fundamental patch here is 3/5, which is a workaround for a rather
> surprising kernel behaviour we seem to be hitting. This all comes from
> the investigation around https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=74.
>
> I can't hit stalls anymore and throughput looks finally good to me
> (~3.5gbps with 208 KiB rmem_max and wmem_max), but... please test.
Write site issue, testing results
I replied with a bunch of test information already, but that was all
related to the specifically read-side issue: I used 16MiB wmem_max
throughout, but limited the read side buffer either with rmem_max or
SO_RCVBUF.
I've now done some tests looking specifically for write side issues.
I basically reversed the setup, with rmem_max set to 4MiB throughout,
but wmem_max limited to 256kiB.
With no patches applied, I easily get a stall, although the exact
details are a little different from the read-side stall: rather than
being consistently 0 there are a few small bursts of traffic on both
sides.
With 2/5 applied, there doesn't appear to be much difference in
behaviour.
With 3/5 applied, I can no longer reproduce stalls, but throughput
isn't very good.
With 4/5 applied, throughput seems to improve notably (from ~300Mbps
to ~2.5Gbps, though it's not surprisingly variable from second to
second).
Tentative conclusions:
* The primary cause of the stalls appears to be the kernel bug
identified, where the window isn't properly recalculated after
MSG_TRUNC. 3/5 appears to successfully work around that bug. I
think getting that merged is our top priority.
* 2/5 makes logical sense to me, but I don't see a lot of evidence of
it changing the behaviour here much. I think we hold it back for
now, polish it a bit, maybe reconsider it as part of a broader
rethink of the STALLED flag.
* 4/5 doesn't appear to be linked to the stalls per se, but does
appear to generally improve behaviour with limited wmem_max. I
think we can improve the implementation a bit, then look at merging
as the second priority.
Open questions:
* Even with the fixes, why does very large rmem_max seem to cause
wildly variable and not great throughput?
* Why does explicitly limiting RCVBUF usually, but not always, cause
very poor throughput but without stalling?
* Given the above oddities, is there any value to us setting RCVBUF
for TCP sockets, rather than just letting the kernel adapt it.
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-22 22:06 [PATCH RFT 0/5] Fixes and a workaround for TCP stalls with small buffers Stefano Brivio
2023-09-22 22:06 ` [PATCH RFT 1/5] tcp: Fix comment to tcp_sock_consume() Stefano Brivio
2023-09-23 2:48 ` David Gibson
2023-09-22 22:06 ` [PATCH RFT 2/5] tcp: Reset STALLED flag on ACK only, check for pending socket data Stefano Brivio
2023-09-25 3:07 ` David Gibson
2023-09-27 17:05 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-09-28 1:48 ` David Gibson
2023-09-29 15:20 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-10-03 3:20 ` David Gibson
2023-10-05 6:18 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-10-05 7:36 ` David Gibson
2023-09-22 22:06 ` [PATCH RFT 3/5] tcp: Force TCP_WINDOW_CLAMP before resetting STALLED flag Stefano Brivio
2023-09-22 22:31 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-09-23 7:55 ` David Gibson
2023-09-25 4:09 ` David Gibson
2023-09-25 4:10 ` David Gibson
2023-09-25 4:21 ` David Gibson
2023-09-27 17:05 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-09-28 1:51 ` David Gibson
2023-09-22 22:06 ` [PATCH RFT 4/5] tcp, tap: Don't increase tap-side sequence counter for dropped frames Stefano Brivio
2023-09-25 4:47 ` David Gibson
2023-09-27 17:06 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-09-28 1:58 ` David Gibson
2023-09-29 15:19 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-10-03 3:22 ` David Gibson
2023-10-05 6:19 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-10-05 7:38 ` David Gibson
2023-09-22 22:06 ` [PATCH RFT 5/5] passt.1: Add note about tuning rmem_max and wmem_max for throughput Stefano Brivio
2023-09-25 4:57 ` David Gibson
2023-09-27 17:06 ` Stefano Brivio
2023-09-28 2:02 ` David Gibson
2023-09-25 5:52 ` David Gibson [this message]
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