From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>,
passt-dev@passt.top, lvivier@redhat.com, dgibson@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] tcp: leverage support of SO_PEEK_OFF socket option when available
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:27:11 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZisfDxOPBZ-W1kn_@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240424203044.2df748d7@elisabeth>
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 08:30:44PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:48:05 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 07:50:10PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 15:19:19 -0400
> > > Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com> wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > > + set_peek_offset(s, 0);
> > >
> > > Do we really need to initialise it to zero on a new connection? Extra
> > > system calls on this path matter for latency of connection
> > > establishment.
> >
> > Sort of, yes: we need to enable the SO_PEEK_OFF behaviour by setting
> > it to 0, rather than the default -1.
>
> By the way of which, this is not documented at this point -- a man page
> patch (linux-man and linux-api lists) would be nice.
>
> > We could lazily enable it, but
> > we'd need either to a) do it later in the handshake (maybe when we set
> > ESTABLISHED), but we'd need to be careful it is always set before the
> > first MSG_PEEK
>
> I was actually thinking that we could set it only as we receive data
> (not every connection will receive data), and keep this out of the
> handshake (which we want to keep "faster", I think).
That makes sense, but I think it would need a per-connection flag.
> And setting it as we mark a connection as ESTABLISHED should have the
> same effect on latency as setting it on a new connection -- that's not
> really lazy. So, actually:
Good point.
> > or b) keep track of whether it's set on a per-socket
> > basis (this would have the advantage of robustness if we ever
> > encountered a kernel that weirdly allows it for some but not all TCP
> > sockets).
>
> ...this could be done as we receive data in tcp_data_from_sock(), with
> a new flag in tcp_tap_conn::flags, to avoid adding latency to the
> handshake. It also looks more robust to me, and done/checked in a
> single place where we need it.
>
> We have just three bits left there which isn't great, but if we need to
> save one at a later point, we can drop this new flag easily.
I just realised that folding the feature detection into this is a bit
costlier than I thought. If we globally probe the feature we just
need one bit per connection: is SO_PEEK_OFF set yet or not. If we
tried to probe per-connection we'd need a tristate: haven't tried /
SO_PEEK_OFF enabled / tried and failed.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-26 3:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-20 19:19 [PATCH 0/2] Support for SO_PEEK_OFF when a available Jon Maloy
2024-04-20 19:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] tcp: leverage support of SO_PEEK_OFF socket option when available Jon Maloy
2024-04-23 17:50 ` Stefano Brivio
2024-04-24 0:48 ` David Gibson
2024-04-24 18:30 ` Stefano Brivio
2024-04-26 3:27 ` David Gibson [this message]
2024-04-26 5:58 ` Stefano Brivio
2024-04-29 1:46 ` David Gibson
2024-04-25 23:06 ` Jon Maloy
2024-04-24 0:44 ` David Gibson
2024-04-25 23:23 ` Jon Maloy
2024-04-26 3:29 ` David Gibson
2024-04-20 19:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] tcp: allow retransmit when peer receive window is zero Jon Maloy
2024-04-24 1:04 ` David Gibson
2024-04-24 18:31 ` Stefano Brivio
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