From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top, Max Chernoff <git@maxchernoff.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] tcp: Acknowledge everything if sending buffer is less than SNDBUF_BIG
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 13:50:15 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTJIZzFfeDrQSfT3@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251205022012.2acceb8e@elisabeth>
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On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 02:20:12AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 11:08:06 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 08:45:37AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > ...instead of checking if it's less than SNDBUF_SMALL, because this
> > > isn't simply an optimisation to coalesce ACK segments: we rely on
> > > having enough data at once from the sender to make the buffer grow
> > > by means of TCP buffer size tuning implemented in the Linux kernel.
> > >
> > > Use SNDBUF_BIG: above that, we don't need auto-tuning (even though
> > > it might happen). SNDBUF_SMALL is too... small.
> >
> > Do you have an idea of how often sndbuf exceeds SNDBUF_BIG? I'm
> > wondering if by making this change we might have largely eliminated
> > the first branch in practice.
>
> Before this series, or after 6/8 in this series, it happens quite
> often. It depends on the bandwidth * delay product of course, but at 1
> Gbps and 20 ms RTT we get there in a couple of seconds.
>
> Maybe 1 MiB would make more sense for typical conditions, but I'd defer
> this to a more adaptive implementation of the whole thing. I think it
> should also depend on the RTT, ideally.
Ok. Adding that context to the commit message might be useful.
Otherwise,
Reviewed-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
>
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > tcp.c | 2 +-
> > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tcp.c b/tcp.c
> > > index e4c5a5b..fbf97a0 100644
> > > --- a/tcp.c
> > > +++ b/tcp.c
> > > @@ -1079,7 +1079,7 @@ int tcp_update_seqack_wnd(const struct ctx *c, struct tcp_tap_conn *conn,
> > > if (bytes_acked_cap && !force_seq &&
> > > !CONN_IS_CLOSING(conn) &&
> > > !(conn->flags & LOCAL) && !tcp_rtt_dst_low(conn) &&
> > > - (unsigned)SNDBUF_GET(conn) >= SNDBUF_SMALL) {
> > > + (unsigned)SNDBUF_GET(conn) >= SNDBUF_BIG) {
> > > if (!tinfo) {
> > > tinfo = &tinfo_new;
> > > if (getsockopt(s, SOL_TCP, TCP_INFO, tinfo, &sl))
> > > --
> > > 2.43.0
>
> --
> Stefano
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-05 2:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-04 7:45 [PATCH 0/8] tcp: Fix throughput issues with non-local peers Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 1/8] tcp: Limit advertised window to available, not total sending buffer size Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 23:10 ` David Gibson
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 2/8] tcp: Adaptive interval based on RTT for socket-side acknowledgement checks Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 23:48 ` David Gibson
2025-12-05 1:20 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:49 ` David Gibson
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 3/8] tcp: Don't clear ACK_TO_TAP_DUE if we're advertising a zero-sized window Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 23:50 ` David Gibson
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 4/8] tcp: Acknowledge everything if sending buffer is less than SNDBUF_BIG Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 0:08 ` David Gibson
2025-12-05 1:20 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:50 ` David Gibson [this message]
2025-12-08 0:19 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 5/8] tcp: Don't limit window to less-than-MSS values, use zero instead Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 0:35 ` David Gibson
2025-12-05 1:20 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:53 ` David Gibson
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 6/8] tcp: Allow exceeding the available sending buffer size in window advertisements Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:34 ` David Gibson
2025-12-08 0:20 ` Stefano Brivio
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 7/8] tcp: Send a duplicate ACK also on complete sendmsg() failure Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:35 ` David Gibson
2025-12-04 7:45 ` [PATCH 8/8] tcp: Skip redundant ACK on partial " Stefano Brivio
2025-12-05 2:36 ` David Gibson
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