Re: Thoughts on interface modes / multiple guest addresses

[David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>]

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On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:03:44AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 16:00:38 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 01:01:36PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 01:29:36AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 16:53:49 +1100
> > > > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:  
> > [snip]
> > > > > I've now updated to cover some more things, and considering the
> > > > > possibility of multiple guest addresses..  Turns out etherpad doesn't
> > > > > really do tables, so it's two sections for the two suggested modes,
> > > > > with matching subheadings.  
> > > > 
> > > > It does, but I disabled the plug-in as you reported an issue which
> > > > turned out to be https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/issues/17598
> > > > instead, and I was trying to sort out other possible reasons.
> > > > 
> > > > I just re-enabled it, tables are available from the toolbar, there's
> > > > an icon just left of "Font Family". Note that it's still beta:
> > > > 
> > > >   https://www.npmjs.com/package/ep_data_tables
> > > > 
> > > > and it has a couple of glitches. I just found one (which I didn't debug
> > > > or report yet): don't start a page with a table, always write something
> > > > before, otherwise it gets duplicated every time you load the document.
> > > > 
> > > > Other than that it looks reasonably robust to me, maybe quickly try with
> > > > a test pad first but I think it should be usable.  
> > > 
> > > Great, thanks.  
> > 
> > It definitely has some jank - sometimes cursor / delete / backspace
> > don't go where you expect.  It's usable, though.
> 
> Unfortunately as soon as Jon loaded it (or was it me?) the table
> started getting duplicated empty rows and became unusable, just the same
> behaviour as I hit when I had no text before it.

Well, poop.  I guess it's not usable, after all.

> I converted it to a monospaced ASCII table, not elegant but that will
> have to do for the moment.

Ok.

> > I've updated this page to use a table.  I've also added what the
> > current behaviour is (both "local mode" and normal) for comparison,
> > along with some other revisions.
> 
> Now, while I don't think any of this is relevant for the netlink monitor
> (but I didn't have a chance to comment about that yet), I had a very
> quick look anyway and I spotted a few inaccuracies.

I think it is relevant, because it's two different approaches to
handling what we do when we get updates from it.

> For example, we definitely don't set DHCP option 2,

Oops, I meant option 3.  Corrected now.

> and in some cases we
> do send DHCP option 121.

Ah, yes.  Corrected.

> On top of that, I don't think you can
> deprecate options without offering equivalent functionality. But anyway,
> not an actual review.

We absolutely could (and occasionally have), but it does require
careful thought about the tradeoffs.  Again, it's a draft.

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