From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: passt.top; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=gibson.dropbear.id.au Authentication-Results: passt.top; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; secure) header.d=gibson.dropbear.id.au header.i=@gibson.dropbear.id.au header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=202512 header.b=JuMjRrDW; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.ozlabs.org (gandalf.ozlabs.org [150.107.74.76]) by passt.top (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F11C5A0625 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2025 05:06:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gibson.dropbear.id.au; s=202512; t=1766030789; bh=ND6KRMsjI7Q9djO/7Qe/Ba9htqrij7G/JFgfw+Rn6kk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=JuMjRrDWMfKUlrFzn//pwNPFFijV4KcyJ7ntC/zXyILEEmFczLiUs7B09cUpC45Pa GmuEJi7v//msq8HiIHypza0ZhnmJkpfsTowWdyBPZOxX//a4hIoH+IHPS9eVi79N4f GNNBizBlkA3AWg3EzXrkubg1E+HVwlXH4qasHcyOjl/QtgsjCGdv1S5oMntR1xoatt mL/S3sU4BxyhLemQqDJ17RjjFmofXEvnnzb6etMfeO2MIMU+H2eCJjeHPnqb2ZitJm 2L1NqXisUEYt5U1M53UeS2WLSr0VnF50qVebzAWCUUVR3HnkL7aq1OBpy2F26ii9iF 0P9tzUtnrc23g== Received: by gandalf.ozlabs.org (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 4dWxtY4j26z4wDn; Thu, 18 Dec 2025 15:06:29 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:52:56 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Stefano Brivio Subject: Re: Thoughts on interface modes / multiple guest addresses Message-ID: References: <20251217012936.5aefec93@elisabeth> <20251218000344.598231c4@elisabeth> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jkma3vNlgRuyuUdn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20251218000344.598231c4@elisabeth> Message-ID-Hash: NB7DOYHXUTHM7RWXKB4BVGUGYJYPYV7E X-Message-ID-Hash: NB7DOYHXUTHM7RWXKB4BVGUGYJYPYV7E X-MailFrom: dgibson@gandalf.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Jon Maloy , passt-dev@passt.top X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Development discussion and patches for passt Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --jkma3vNlgRuyuUdn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:03:44AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 16:00:38 +1100 > David Gibson wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 01:01:36PM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 01:29:36AM +0100, Stefano Brivio wrote: =20 > > > > On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 16:53:49 +1100 > > > > David Gibson wrote: =20 > > [snip] > > > > > I've now updated to cover some more things, and considering the > > > > > possibility of multiple guest addresses.. Turns out etherpad doe= sn't > > > > > really do tables, so it's two sections for the two suggested mode= s, > > > > > with matching subheadings. =20 > > > >=20 > > > > It does, but I disabled the plug-in as you reported an issue which > > > > turned out to be https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/issues/17598 > > > > instead, and I was trying to sort out other possible reasons. > > > >=20 > > > > I just re-enabled it, tables are available from the toolbar, there's > > > > an icon just left of "Font Family". Note that it's still beta: > > > >=20 > > > > https://www.npmjs.com/package/ep_data_tables > > > >=20 > > > > and it has a couple of glitches. I just found one (which I didn't d= ebug > > > > or report yet): don't start a page with a table, always write somet= hing > > > > before, otherwise it gets duplicated every time you load the docume= nt. > > > >=20 > > > > Other than that it looks reasonably robust to me, maybe quickly try= with > > > > a test pad first but I think it should be usable. =20 > > >=20 > > > Great, thanks. =20 > >=20 > > It definitely has some jank - sometimes cursor / delete / backspace > > don't go where you expect. It's usable, though. >=20 > Unfortunately as soon as Jon loaded it (or was it me?) the table > started getting duplicated empty rows and became unusable, just the same > behaviour as I hit when I had no text before it. Well, poop. I guess it's not usable, after all. > I converted it to a monospaced ASCII table, not elegant but that will > have to do for the moment. Ok. > > I've updated this page to use a table. I've also added what the > > current behaviour is (both "local mode" and normal) for comparison, > > along with some other revisions. >=20 > Now, while I don't think any of this is relevant for the netlink monitor > (but I didn't have a chance to comment about that yet), I had a very > quick look anyway and I spotted a few inaccuracies. I think it is relevant, because it's two different approaches to handling what we do when we get updates from it. > For example, we definitely don't set DHCP option 2, Oops, I meant option 3. Corrected now. > and in some cases we > do send DHCP option 121. Ah, yes. Corrected. > On top of that, I don't think you can > deprecate options without offering equivalent functionality. But anyway, > not an actual review. We absolutely could (and occasionally have), but it does require careful thought about the tradeoffs. Again, it's a draft. --=20 David Gibson (he or they) | I'll have my music baroque, and my code david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you, not the other way | around. http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson --jkma3vNlgRuyuUdn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEO+dNsU4E3yXUXRK2zQJF27ox2GcFAmlDQkUACgkQzQJF27ox 2GdcjA/+Ojx2WWrNGhFyPUgz5EPJg2ZYxOOHO39SayvTmpiwrHtGIkd2YAAulEQf TOePYxSmzbMSGXAeXVS8SXsmTRBTGP+TbI7sfTUMbVTHU7SOAdNCKXUMXQnjsDsu bdvIUp8RAKFjuujitNSxtJql1MwzxOABzm7r8GnnqUJ5KobyVD3BwB+DQB1C+xh4 iofG1HbOBXtLrcrncHytNbh1Ck7XvNply79TuUEMDGstZ3Lhk7PRBTOBa/xnC/lX bY6AXAn0Ac4SKpOPRaVv0gvmpuw5DHHFTpBp+ab9alS7hxgCCrJzMw/ae3u73LGl XL7iztwKi3c+R6X0qqw7IdhXpea1pSo3mpI/hCsp1ntzV0sSLKnaFb/GLJqA4fSc JGf2J8JIzXyLVFt9rCr3zbizM7BxuOYqpftaF0zhgIGYZWHaK3AodjlaPsFYS0en HqeY0ME7pMxLXqfHMIDubkTFqlngWg4DJFqhq+yxEcTFVnHdJgJm4S0DV5VtBdcp NInTH3MNSAUBX2Q25LPJKCwvdF/p2oYInXNZ/FvjWhafTW0Foy7L79NDyAS+lco3 TqPvKTfCUxTyEh22dXC5n+4qTFiYbYhwmLJnUqjjEdOjHUqRdLPJnwEroWYJttuL wfFV+qvT+kFzL8MMUdPnx1muGSk3Y2KXO9akCOkngxjpCNv+CTI= =eHU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jkma3vNlgRuyuUdn--