From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] treewide: Add SOCK_CLOEXEC to accept() calls that are missing it
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 12:31:38 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ag5uitI7ytJ5ijou@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260520162209.344f7232@elisabeth>
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On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 04:22:10PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2026 22:52:47 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 01:36:48PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > On Wed, 20 May 2026 11:04:58 +1000
> > > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, May 20, 2026 at 02:37:02AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 18 May 2026 12:28:57 +1000
> > > > > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2026 at 05:46:11PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2026 14:14:21 +1000
> > > > > > > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Generally we try to set the O_CLOEXEC flag on every fd we create. This
> > > > > > > > seems to be generally accepted security best practice these days, and we
> > > > > > > > never fork(), so certainly have no need to pass fds to children.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But we do clone() with CLONE_FILES (even though when we clone() to call
> > > > > > > execvp() later, we don't set CLONE_FILES), so, even though I don't see
> > > > > > > a reason to skip O_CLOEXEC for c->fd_tap, this conclusion shouldn't be
> > > > > > > automatic from the fact we don't fork().
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I did think about that when wrote it, but went for the short
> > > > > > version rather than saying clone() with CLONE_FILES doesn't count.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, I realised that we've both fallen for the trap again, forgetting
> > > > > > that this has nothing to do with fork() or clone() and is, as it says
> > > > > > right there in the name, about exec().
> > > > >
> > > > > No, wait, I didn't fall for it, not this time. :) That's why I was
> > > > > mentioning that when we call clone() and execvp() later (which would be
> > > >
> > > > Uh...? I'm pretty sure the only execve(2) in the entire program is
> > > > where we spawn passt.avx2. That's essentially the very first thing we
> > > > do, long before this point.
> > >
> > > Well, grep would beg to differ, as we don't call execve() at all, but:
> >
> > I meant the system call execve(2), which execv() and execvp() are
> > library wrappers around.
>
> Oops, I missed the (2).
>
> > > $ grep execv *.c | grep -v qrap
> > > arch.c: execv(new_path, argv);
> > > pasta.c: execvp(a->exe, a->argv);
> >
> > Ah, I did miss the one in pasta_spawn_cmd(). Of course, we definitely
> > don't want to leak our internal fds into the spawned command, so
> > CLOEXEC is what we want.
> >
> > > O_CLOEXEC (or lack thereof) also matters on execvp().
> > >
> > > > > the only path that matters), we don't set CLONE_FILES anyway.
> > > >
> > > > CLONE_FILES is irrelevant, it's lost during execve(2).
> > >
> > > Yes, but if you first clone(), which we actually do before calling
> > > pasta_spawn_cmd(), and then execvp(), CLONE_FILES on clone() *would*
> > > matter, because the cloned process would inherit the open files, and
> > > the process started by execvp() would then get those files as well.
> >
> > No, it doesn't matter. If you clone() without CLONE_FILES, the new
> > thread/process gets a copy of the handles, which do or don't survive
> > exec() depending on O_CLOEXEC. If you clone with CLONE_FILES, the new
> > process shares the fd table. The fd table is unshared again as part
> > of the exec().
> >
> > From execve(2):
> > > • The file descriptor table is unshared, undoing the effect of the CLONE_FILES flag of clone(2).
> >
> > .. then the now copied files do or don't survive depending on
> > O_CLOEXEC. Either way, O_CLOEXEC has the same final effect.
>
> Ah, right, I forgot about this part. But anyway, O_CLOEXEC is always
> relevant, as long as we call execvp() not right after start, regardless
> of having called clone() before.
>
> And in this case (pasta_spawn_cmd()) we call it rather "late", so the
> fact we don't call fork() is not really relevant for this purpose.
Right. I already removed the reference to fork() in the next vesion.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-21 2:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-13 4:14 [PATCH 0/3] More caution with NONBLOCK flag on Unix sockets David Gibson
2026-05-13 4:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] treewide: Add SOCK_CLOEXEC to accept() calls that are missing it David Gibson
2026-05-16 15:46 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-18 2:28 ` David Gibson
2026-05-20 0:37 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-20 1:04 ` David Gibson
2026-05-20 11:36 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-20 12:52 ` David Gibson
2026-05-20 14:22 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-21 2:31 ` David Gibson [this message]
2026-05-13 4:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] conf, tap, repair: Uniformly use non-blocking accept() on Unix sockets David Gibson
2026-05-13 5:51 ` David Gibson
2026-05-16 15:46 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-18 2:40 ` David Gibson
2026-05-13 4:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] conf, repair, tap: More caution about blocking flag " David Gibson
2026-05-16 15:46 ` Stefano Brivio
2026-05-18 2:50 ` David Gibson
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