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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
Cc: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/12] tcp: Pass queue pair explicitly through TCP send path
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 12:36:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajifk9pWrNNHMnnB@zatzit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <499724cc-6262-402d-9e63-b38ec171a7b2@redhat.com>

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 07:07:56PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> On 6/19/26 08:00, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 02:51:24PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> > > Thread a qpair parameter from the entry points (tcp_sock_handler,
> > > tcp_timer_handler, tcp_tap_handler, tcp_defer_handler) through every
> > > intermediate function down to the vhost-user send functions, so callers
> > > explicitly select the target RX virtqueue instead of hardcoding
> > > QPAIR_DEFAULT.
> > > 
> > > Add a qpair parameter to tcp_send_flag(), tcp_data_from_sock(),
> > > tcp_rst_do() and its tcp_rst() macro, tcp_rewind_seq(),
> > > tcp_data_from_tap(), tcp_conn_from_sock_finish(), tcp_connect_finish(),
> > > tcp_tap_window_update(), tcp_conn_from_tap(), tcp_rst_no_conn(),
> > > tcp_keepalive(), and tcp_inactivity().
> > 
> > For the to-guest functions which take a connection parameter, this
> > seems odd to me.  Can't they deduce the right queue from the
> > connection?
> 
> The connection's qpair (conn->f.qpair) can change at any time when
> another thread processes a tap packet for the same flow and calls
> FLOW_MIGRATE().

Ahh.  Hmm.  Right.  I guess I don't really know the concurrency model
you're going for.  I had assumed that each flow was pinned to a
thread, and migrating it was an operation requiring a maybe complex
and heavyweight synchronization step.

> If a socket event fires on qpair 0's epoll instance and we read
> conn->f.qpair during processing, another thread might change it
> concurrently via FLOW_MIGRATE().  The qpair from the epoll event is
> the stable, race-free reference for "which queue am I operating on."

Ok.  For call chains initiated on the tap side, that's clear enough -
it's the queue we got the initiating event on.  For things initiaed on
the socket side it's less clear what "queue I am operating on" means.
I guess it means the queue associated with the epoll set tne
initiating event occurred on?

> So the explicit parameter is intentional: it carries the qpair from
> the epoll event through the call chain, independent of the mutable
> flow state.

I guess I haven't looked at the multithread series yet, but it feels
like the picture has a gap.  In general we freely access fields in the
connection.  I had assumed that meant it was "owned" by the current
thread.  If the owning thread can change midstream, don't we need some
other sort of synchronization accessing *anything* in the flow entry?

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-16 12:51 [PATCH v5 00/12] vhost-user: Add multiqueue support Laurent Vivier
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] tap: Remove pool parameter from tap4_handler() and tap6_handler() Laurent Vivier
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] vhost-user: Advertise multiqueue support Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  5:17   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] test: Add multiqueue support to vhost-user test infrastructure Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  5:06   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] tap: Thread queue pair through all remaining tap paths Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  5:37   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] arp: Pass queue pair explicitly through ARP send path Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  5:40   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] tcp: Pass queue pair explicitly through TCP " Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:00   ` David Gibson
2026-06-19 17:07     ` Laurent Vivier
2026-06-22  2:36       ` David Gibson [this message]
2026-06-22  7:44         ` Laurent Vivier
2026-06-22 10:01           ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] udp: Pass queue pair explicitly through UDP " Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:08   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] dhcp/dhcpv6: Pass queue pair explicitly through DHCP " Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:10   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] icmp: Pass queue pair explicitly through ICMP " Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:12   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] ndp: Pass queue pair explicitly through NDP " Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:17   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] flow: Add queue pair tracking to flow management Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:36   ` David Gibson
2026-06-16 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] flow: Derive epoll fd from queue pair, removing epollid field Laurent Vivier
2026-06-19  6:52   ` David Gibson

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