On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 09:28:14AM -0700, Yuxi Liu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Bug report against pasta, as used by rootless podman for
> host.containers.internal.
> 
> What happens
> ------------
> Rootless container, default pasta networking (podman passes
> --no-map-gw --map-guest-addr 169.254.1.2), on a laptop. The laptop
> moves to a different network (hotel wifi, home, office). From that
> moment, every connection from the container to 169.254.1.2 times out.
> Forever. General outbound from the container keeps working, so the
> failure looks like the host service died. The host service is fine and
> answers on the host the whole time. Only recreating the container
> fixes the route.
> 
> Why it happens
> --------------
> --map-guest-addr forwards mapped traffic to the host's external
> address (commit 57b7bd2). pasta resolves that address once, at
> startup, and never again. After the host moves networks, pasta still
> connect()s to the launch-time address. Nobody owns that address
> anymore, the SYNs vanish, and no error is logged anywhere.
> 
> pasta already runs a live netlink monitor in its event loop
> (RTMGRP_NEIGH, neighbour events). Host address changes are the one
> thing it reads once at startup and never watches afterward. Re-reading
> the current address needs no privilege: getifaddrs() works for any
> process.

Right.  This is a known limitation.  We're working on it, but it's
fairly difficult to fix correctly, because it interacts with a bunch
of other features.  This is largely tracked by this bug:
    https://bugs.passt.top/show_bug.cgi?id=141

> Reproduce
> ---------
> 1. Laptop on wifi network A. Run a rootless podman container with the
> default pasta network. Have any service listening on the host,
> say port 8191.
> 2. In the container: curl
> https://www.google.com/url?q=http://host.containers.internal:8191&source=gmail&ust=1785083212577000&sa=E
> -> answers.
> 3. Move the laptop to wifi network B.
> 4. Same curl -> timeout. Stays dead until the container is recreated.
> 
> Versions: passt 0.0~git20250503.587980c-2 (Ubuntu 25.10),
> podman 5.4.2.
> 
> Expected
> --------
> One of:
> 1. pasta re-resolves the mapping target when the host's addresses
> change, or
> 2. the mapped route fails loudly (RST) instead of silently, or
> 3. the man page warns that the mapping dies permanently on host
> network change.
> 
> Laptops are a mainstream platform for rootless podman. A silent,
> permanent route death on every wifi change is a serious defect for
> them.
> 
> Workaround
> ----------
> --map-guest-addr none --map-host-loopback 169.254.1.2 (via podman:
> --network=pasta:--map-guest-addr,none,--map-host-loopback,169.254.1.2).
> Mapped traffic then arrives on the host as 127.0.0.1, which the host
> owns on every network. This changes source semantics (connections
> appear to come from loopback), which is acceptable when you control
> both sides.

Right, for your use case, --map-host-loopback seems like a good
workaround.  Even when we implement a netlink monitor,
--map-guest-addr (or its future equivalent) can't really work when the
laptop is not on any external network, because there is no external
host address to direct traffic to.

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