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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: passt-dev@passt.top
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] test/passt_in_ns: Consistent sleep commands before starting socat client
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:48:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YyfKcc/t8WGnzUHI@yekko> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220917132842.2684a7d2@elisabeth>

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 01:28:42PM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 20:19:21 +1000
> David Gibson <david(a)gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:44:41AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:
> > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 13:32:45 +1000
> > > David Gibson <david(a)gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 01:55:34AM +0200, Stefano Brivio wrote:  
> > > > > There are some 'sleep 1' commands between starting the socat server
> > > > > and its corresponding client to avoid races due to the server not
> > > > > being ready as we start sending data.
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, those don't cover all the cases where we might need them,
> > > > > and in some cases the sleep command actually ended up being before
> > > > > the server even starts.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This fixes occasional failures in TCP and UDP simple transfer tests,
> > > > > that became apparent with the new command dispatch mechanism.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio(a)redhat.com>    
> > > > 
> > > > Heh, I have a very similar patch in my upcoming series.  I used sleep
> > > > 0.1 though, to avoid taking so long, which seems to be sufficient in
> > > > practice.  
> > > 
> > > Just mind POSIX only specifies integers as argument for sleep(1), a
> > > pattern I commonly use is:
> > > 
> > > 	sleep 0.1 || sleep 1  
> > 
> > Ah, right.
> > 
> > > > I did look for a proper way to wait for the socat server to be ready,
> > > > but I couldn't find anything workable.  
> > > 
> > > I guess we could enable logging and look for "starting accept loop",
> > > from _xioopen_listen() in xio-listen.c.  
> > 
> > Yeah, I suppose.
> > 
> > > Anyway, right now, I'm just trying to get the tests to complete with
> > > all your pending series, because it's been a while. This doesn't look
> > > too bad, we can try to improve it later.  
> > 
> > Yeah, fair enough.  When I rebase I'll see if there's any refinements
> > I can make relatively easily.
> 
> Okay, thanks.
> 
> > > > I thought I could retry on the
> > > > client side, but that doesn't work (at least for host to guest
> > > > connections) because passt is always listening on the forwarded ports,
> > > > so the client won't see a connection refused from the actual server.
> > > > I don't think there's any sane way to propagate connection refused in
> > > > that way, although we could and probably should forward connection
> > > > resets outwards.  
> > > 
> > > They should be already, and (manual) retries actually worked for me,  
> > 
> > I'm not entirely sure what you mean by manual retries.  I was trying
> > to use socat's retry option, but that only seems to fire on
> > ECONNREFUSED.
> 
> I was watching the text execution, then as I saw the socat server
> process getting stuck, I just re-run the client with ssh -F ... with the
> original command, and that worked for me every time.

Ah, yeah, I'd expect that to work.  The difficulty is automatically
detecting the failure.

> So, the behaviour I'm inferring is:
> 
> - server not listening, no retry option: connect() goes
>   through, but anything else will get ECONNRESET (RST from passt), plus
>   there should be EPOLLERR if socat checks that: client exits

That doesn't seem to be the case.  We *eventually* get an ECONNRESET,
but it seems like we can send some data before it happens - sometimes
quite a lot.  I'm assuming this is because quite a lot can fit into
socket buffers before the RST makes its way back.

> - server not listening, retry option: client exits without retry because
>   it doesn't get ECONNREFUSED

Right.

> ...I guess a cleaner behaviour on passt's side would be to delay the
> accept() (that's in tcp_conn_from_sock()) until we get SYN, ACK from
> the guest. But:

I thought about that, but I don't think its workable.  For starters, I
don't think there's a way of explicitly refusing a connection from
userspace.  Not accept()ing, then closing and re-opening the listening
socket *might* do it.

But.. more fundamentally, due to the connection backlog, I think by
the time we get the notification in userspace, the kernel has probably
already completed the TCP handshake, so it's too late to signal a
connection refused to the client.

> - we can't send a RST if we don't accept(), as we have no socket to
>   close(). Maybe we could close and reopen the listening socket...? We
>   need to be a bit careful about not turning that into a vector for
>   DoS, though
> 
> - we can't send ICMP/ICMPv6 messages
> 
> ...so we risk a connect() timeout, which is even less desirable.
> 
> In case the connection goes through, though... I actually tried in the
> past to wait before we accept(), and it was increasing latency (of
> course), so I discarded that approach, because I couldn't think of any
> practical case.
> 
> But here we are, so perhaps this behaviour should be there, at least as
> an option (maybe even as default).
> 
> > > but it looks like added complexity. Before even checking the connection
> > > state, tcp_tap_handler() checks for the RST flag:
> > > 
> > > 	if (th->rst) {
> > > 		conn_event(c, conn, CLOSED);
> > > 		return p->count;
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > and this will abruptly close the originating socket, which implies a
> > > RST, on Linux.  
> > 
> > Right, I found that... but I'm not sure it is sending an RST.  Setting
> > SO_LINGER with zero timeout does send an RST, but I'm not sure it does
> > so without it.
> 
> I actually checked, it did for me, without SO_LINGER.
> 
> > Even if it does, it's not really helpful for this.  I found that
> > sending an RST doesn't reliably cause the client socat to exit with
> > failure.  I'm not 100% sure what's going on, but I think what can
> > happen is that the client sends everything and completes before the
> > RST arrives, because it all gets buffered before in passt (or at least
> > in the kernel socket buffers associated with passt).  In that case the
> > client doesn't detect the error.
> 
> ...right.
> 
> > > We don't send out ICMP or ICMPv6 messages, even if the guest
> > > additionally replied with one, because we can't ("ping" sockets are
> > > just for that -- echoes). For TCP, a simple RST is probably not as
> > > descriptive, but that's all we can do.
> > >   
> > > > Btw, I've also been doing a bunch of work on the static checks - with
> > > > some different options I've brought the runtime of make cppcheck from
> > > > ~40 minutes down to ~40 seconds :).  
> > > 
> > > Whoa, 40 minutes? For me it was never more than a couple of minutes,  
> > 
> > Yeah, about 36 minutes to be precise, I think.  There's a reason I
> > haven't been attempting to run this until now.
> 
> Wow, okay, I had no idea.
> 
> > > see https://passt.top/passt/about/#continuous-integration,
> > > "build/static_checkers".
> > > 
> > > I guess it depends on system headers... but in any case that's
> > > currently taking way too long, also for myself. :)  
> > 
> > Huh, interesting.  I wonder if it's because it simply isn't finding
> > all the system headers for you.  I see you have a missingIncludeSystem
> > suppression in there, and when I removed that I found it complained
> > about not finding the headers on Debian until I added
> > -I/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu.  Anyway, I have patches that fix this
> > which I'll be sending soon.  In any case, since the run time will be
> > exponential in the number of config defines, it doesn't take a huge
> > difference in the headers to make a vast difference to runtime.
> 
> Ah, yes, that might explain it.
> 
> > I also found that both clang-tidy and cppcheck fail for me, I have a
> > bunch of fixes for this, but I'm not finished yet.  There's a couple
> > of tricky ones, including one with dueling errors - cppcheck says
> > there's a redundant NULL check, but if I remove it clang-tidy says
> > there's a NULL pointer dereference.  Still working on it.
> 
> I'm currently using Cppcheck 2.8 and LLVM 13.0.1, perhaps you have more
> recent versions, I'll update them as soon as I finally get the tests to
> go through. ;) Thanks in advance for fixing those.

Huh, odd.  I'm using cppcheck 2.7 most of the time (the one packaged
in Fedora 36).  I also tried cppcheck 2.9 on Debian which gets some
additional errors.  I have LLVM 14.0.5, so that might explain that
side.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-16 23:55 [PATCH 0/2] test: Fix two issues made apparent by new command dispatch Stefano Brivio
2022-09-16 23:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] test/perf: Check for /sbin/sysctl with which(1), not simply sysctl Stefano Brivio
2022-09-17  3:27   ` David Gibson
2022-09-17  8:44     ` Stefano Brivio
2022-09-17  9:51       ` David Gibson
2022-09-16 23:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] test/passt_in_ns: Consistent sleep commands before starting socat client Stefano Brivio
2022-09-17  3:32   ` David Gibson
2022-09-17  8:44     ` Stefano Brivio
2022-09-17 10:19       ` David Gibson
2022-09-17 11:28         ` Stefano Brivio
2022-09-19  1:48           ` David Gibson [this message]
2022-09-19  6:41             ` Stefano Brivio
2022-09-19  7:00               ` David Gibson
2022-09-19  8:24                 ` Stefano Brivio

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